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Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
 
Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
  
== How to upload images (Mobile) ==
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== Add internal name and ID regarding item ==
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{{Archive top|result=There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)}}
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the {{I|tulip table|PG}} in {{PG}} has the filename <code>sum_poptable01</code> and the internal ID <code>126C</code>. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)
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: {{Support}} for the reasons you've given. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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== The animal emoji redirects ==
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{{Archive top|result=There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)}}
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: [[🐂]] [[🐊]] [[🐒]] [[🐕]] [[🐦]] [[🐵]] [[🐶]] [[🐺]] [[🐻]] [[🦍]]
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They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_emoji they actually utilize emoji redirects], so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:
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a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the [[:Category:Species|species]] pages<br>
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b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.
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What do you think? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)
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::Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)
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== New Project: Project Languages ==
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I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates.
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--[[User:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">Sylveon</span>]] [[User talk:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:magenta">(Autistic and proud!)</span>]]🍉🌺  08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
  
Hi, I’m trying to figure out how to upload an image. It says that I removed the file info template even though I didn’t do anything. How do I fix this? Thanks, [[User:BadTime123|BadTime123]] ([[User talk:BadTime123|talk]]) 06:57, December 30, 2021 (EST)
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:I asked my Chinese friend if [[Marina#Names in other languages|this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct]], because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
:Hi, you need to add <nowiki>{{File Info}}</nowiki> template to the image and fill it (Add source and description). Also here is example [[:File:395 Cally amiibo card JP.png]]. {{User:Kalina70/Sig}} 14:00, December 30, 2021 (CET)
 
  
== How do you make a bot? ==
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:She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
  
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:I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold"></span>]] 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)
Does anyone know how to make a bot code?
 
Cheers,
 
[[User:ToadetteFan007|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#8904B1">ToadetteFan007</span>]] [[User talk:ToadetteFan007|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#00FFF">(Talk)</span>]] [[File:EncantoPic.png|20px]] 04:47, February 5, 2022 (EST)
 
:Majority of bots used here are operated using a {{wp|programming language}} (e.g. {{wp|Go (programming language)|Go}}, {{wp|C++}}). My bot ({{u|PanchamBot}}), uses {{wp|Python (programming language)|Python}} for parameter additions, file moves, and page creation functions. Warning tho, you will need to have administration permission and lots of coding experience if you want to operate your own bot someday. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:20, February 6, 2022 (EST)
 
  
== HHA furniture theme collection mergers ==
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== Villager Quotes ==
  
I'm proposing for [[Pirate Ship Theme]] and [[Mario Theme]] to merge with [[Pirate Series]] and [[Mario Series]] (with or without [[Super Mario Set]] merged) respectively. A big reason has to be how they are transcribed in different languages. For Pirate Ship Theme and Pirate Series, they share the same Japanese (かいぞく), Korean (해적), Spanish (pirata), and German (Piraten) translations. As for the Mario Theme and Mario Series, their translations are pretty identical,
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Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? [[User:Omigpine11|Omigpine11]] ([[User talk:Omigpine11|talk]]) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11
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:Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the [[Photo]] page. I personally {{Oppose}} adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I {{Support}} adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the [[Alfonso]] quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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::Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page ''is'' a quote lazy villagers say in ''New Horizons'', just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
  
I have another reason, that given how furniture series have changed in {{NH|short|nolink}} from having the same bed, drawer, table, and chair features to diverse furniture parts that may or may not have all of the following classifications, that it addition to the translations, they are justified because of the changes made to {{NH|short|nolink}}'s furniture collection classification. So they are the same collection, just under a different name.
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::That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:::Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be [[Coach]], [[Norma]], [[Patty]], [[Rolf]], [[Claudia]], [[Gaston]], [[Coco]], and [[Mira]].
  
Let me know what you guys think of these changes. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 18:08, February 27, 2022 (EST)
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:I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
  
:{{Comment}} Are there existing pages where themes/sets and series have been merged? I'd like to know what they look like. Also I don't understand why translations should matter in decisions like these since this is an English wiki. Could you clarify/expand your reasoning here, please? [[User:Melicent|Melicent]] ([[User talk:Melicent|talk]]) 19:07, February 27, 2022 (EST)
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== Villager catchphrases ==
::{{Comment}} [[Jingle Series]] merging with [[Festive Series]] and [[Pavé Series]] merging with [[Festivale Series]] on the premise of shared Japanese translation for each are instances. And translations can matter in situation in regards to if a furniture series/set/theme is the same as before or if it's a different series/set/theme overall. [[Office Set]] and [[Office Set (Clerical)]] is an example of this. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 19:31, February 27, 2022 (EST)
 
:::{{Comment}} Thanks for taking the time to explain! I was wondering specically about sets and/or themes being merged into series pages (or sets being merged into themes) and whether there were already precedents, in which case what you suggest is usual modus operandi on the wiki and I'm all for it. I've tried looking for some but only found the cases you mention (series being merged into other series with similar names/furniture, etc.). However, I don't know the franchise and the Nooki well enough. [[User:Melicent|Melicent]] ([[User talk:Melicent|talk]]) 07:08, February 28, 2022 (EST)
 
  
:{{Comment}} Where are you getting the translations for the themes from? They are not present on the wiki. [[User:Moomoomeadows|—Moo🐮Moo🐄Meadows]] ([[User talk:Moomoomeadows|talk]]) 06:43, March 21, 2022 (EDT)
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I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.
::{{Comment}} The theme translations were missing from the wiki, but I went ahead and added them using the "Localizations" tab present in the [[Community:ACNL Spreadsheet|New Leaf spreadsheet]]. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 05:32, April 6, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Festivale Feathers ==
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If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.
  
Hey, I noticed that when referring to the Feathers collected during the Festivale event, the hyperlink for ‘Feathers’ leads to the disambiguation page for Feather. I was wondering whether I should create a new page for specifically the Feathers collected during Festivale or if I should change the hyperlink to one of the individual feather pages and if so, which one? Thank you for the input and of course please tell me if I have overlooked something or made an error in someway!
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While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:
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*The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
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**Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it ([[fireemblem:Marth#Etymology and other languages|example here]]). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
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*The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example [[Sherb]], the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."
  
--[[User:TapDanceDruid|TapDanceDruid]] ([[User talk:TapDanceDruid|talk]]) 11:32, February 28, 2022 (EST)
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I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
[[Category:Active discussions]]
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:If this is something you're still interested in, I'd love to work with you on implementation! I agree that catchphrases are one of the few unique personality-defining characteristics of a villager (as most of their dialog is shared), and agree we should have a space to talk about the nuances of their catchphrase in different languages. I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're suggesting regarding implementation, though. I can't tell whether you're suggesting to add catchphrases to {{t|Foreignname}} or whether you're suggesting a new template & section that also includes the given name. I think that having its own section and template is best, and it would appear very similar to Foreignname, which actually doesn't have any headers at all (the meaning of the columns is inferred from the title of the section). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 02:30, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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== I caught the spirit!! ==
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I caught farley!! ~[[File:SylveonSig.png|link=User:Sylveon|120px]] 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)
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==Trig Jegman's File Template==
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As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of [[Module:Sandbox/Trig Jegman/File|my file module]] for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing [[Template:File Info]].
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First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. '''Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.'''
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Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:
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*Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
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*More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
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*Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
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*Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
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*This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.
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I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to '''every single file''' on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. [[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Sandbox|I have a few examples of use cases here]] to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:
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*Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
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*Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
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*User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
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*Author — At the suggestion/request of [[User:SuperHamster|Shams]], useful for creative commons files.
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*License — All those licensing templates are here now
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*Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.
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I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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== New Horizons villager box item capitalization ==
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{{U|PanchamBro}}'s bot fixed the capitalization of {{NH|short|nolink}} items on almost all villager pages, but since [[Jacob|Jacob/Jakey]] and [[Spork|Spork/Crackle]] have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
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:This should be fixed now! -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you! [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
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==wanna join my club???==
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it is called bob fan club {{Unsigned|FroggyPotter}}
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:Sure. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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==Help with Cargo Tables==
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Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? [[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)
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:Here are a couple of resources:
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:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo (also check out the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Storing_data Storing data] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data Querying data] subpages)
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:* https://help.fandom.com/wiki/Extension:Cargo
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:* https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Cargo
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:My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! [[User:Bassieeee|Bassieeee]] ([[User talk:Bassieeee|talk]]) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
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::[[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Project Database]] has some good  information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
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== Ideas. ==
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1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project.
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2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club.
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Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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:Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent ''requirement'' for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
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:The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
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:These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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::OK, Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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== Discussing our proposal system ==
  
:Welcome to Nookipedia, TapDanceDruid! In response to your question, I'd say the link should just be removed. The feathers already have individual item pages for New Horizons and I don't think they're notable enough for their own page. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:41, February 28, 2022 (EST)
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I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".
::Drago beat me to it, but I'll say what I was suppose to say: in regards to the disambiguation page I would probably add the item pages associated with the feathers to the page (e.g. {{I|Green Feather|NH}}, {{I|Blue Feather|NH}}, {{I|Red Feather|NH}}, {{I|Purple Feather|NH}}, and {{I|Rainbow Feather|NH}}) but a new article about feathers doesn't sound bad to me. I would like to know how it would look like first, so I recommend creating a user sandbox [[User:TapDanceDruid/Sandbox|here]]. But as Drago mentioned, there might be some notablility problems, so keep that in mind. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 11:49, February 28, 2022 (EST)
 
:::I agree that the wiki could use a Feathers page. They are collectibles in both New Leaf and New Horizons, having a centralized page that's all about feathers would be useful. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:46, February 28, 2022 (EST)
 
  
== Create villager/special character ID redirects ==
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What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
{{Archive top|result=Proposal did not go through per issues brought up by HylianAngel. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 13:54, July 4, 2022 (EDT)}}
 
I've been thinking a lot about the implementation of IDs for villagers and special characters, and if it's plausible to have redirects based on a villager or special characters's ID. It would certainly be somewhat easier to search for a particular codename and then go to the character associated with it.
 
  
There are certain articles that will need to have a notice due to this (e.g. [[Doc]] already exists as a villager so a notice would need to be added to redirect people to [[Wilbur]] in the event that someone wanted to search his codename). -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:00, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
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*{{Comment}} I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
:{{Support}} It makes sense to have them. It makes things easier. --[[User:Dr. Peach|Dr. Peach]] ([[User talk:Dr. Peach|talk]]) 12:01, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
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:I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
:{{Comment}} It seems really cool in theory, but does the wiki really need these redirects? I feel like it is not a very practical way of searching up a character. A person who is like "I want to go to cat #5's page," I feel would either want to go there because of these two main scenarios:
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:*I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
:*They already know from memory that cat05 is Tangy. However, if that's the case, they would just look up Tangy anyways.
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::*When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
:*They don't know who cat #5 is and they are curious who it is like a game of chance. However, if they really wanted to learn that info, they would just go to the page of villager ID's (which hasn't been created yet but has been a WIP by Chubby Bub).
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*{{Comment}} Agree with Drago on both points. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
:Anyways, I don't see this being a very practical feature. I don't think the redirects would be that helpful just because I would say 99% of players wouldn't know villager ID's by heart, and that the number of people who search for a villager based on ID rather than the villager's name is too small or nonexistent. And if they desired that info, the most practical thing would be for them to go to the ID page. I can't imagine that many scenarios where a person would want to go to, say, kpg's page. I would say the villager ID's page that hyperlinks to each villager page would serve as a more useful trivia and type of "search" feature. Also, along with <code>doc</code> causing confusion, there's also <code>fox</code>, <code>man</code>, and <code>owl</code>. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:34, March 14, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Oppose}} for the same reasons HylianAngel says. This seems unnecessary (I see no real use for it) and honestly I think it will just create confusion, especially where redirects are necessary. If someone wants to find a character's ID or what an ID is they can go to the list page, the character's page or search for the ID. But on this topic, I'll try to finish the list pages so we can move them to the main namespace. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:43, March 15, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Oppose}} per above. I don't think redirects for this are necessary or would even be used much. If people want to see which ID links to which villager, then the newly created ID list articles would be far more practical and informative for this. Also IMO we have way too many WrongPage (etc.) notices in the villager articles already without adding even more to cover edge cases like [[Doc]]/<code>doc</code>. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 05:43, March 17, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Oppose}} per others. I could see this perhaps being a useful option to add to the API, but I don't see it getting widespread use on the wiki by the average reader. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 14:04, March 17, 2022 (EDT)
 
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== Merge NES games with their respective item page ==
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== Translating the wiki ==
{{Archive top|result=Consensus agrees with restoring the SMB and TLoZ item pages and merging the contents of the NES games with their respective item page. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:42, July 5, 2022 (EDT)}}
 
I really should content that the NES games do serve a purpose in informing the reader on the games that are available to play in {{PG}}. That being said, with the creation of item pages, should they even stay? I'd argue they be merged, with information on the game's origin and gameplay moving to the item page instead.
 
  
As for [[Super Mario Bros.]] and [[The Legend of Zelda]], that's tricky. They don't necessary have a respectively item page, so I think a separate choice will need to be made on this. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]])
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I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages?
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Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself.
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[[User:FUGOSHROOM|FUGOSHROOM]] ([[User talk:FUGOSHROOM|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM
  
:I {{Support}} your proposal. However, regarding SMB and TLoZ, I think they should have pages. This is a bit of a separate topic, but here's as good a place to discuss it: I think all unused items should still have item pages. I know they used to but were moved to [[Prerelease and unused content]] pages; however, I think such explanatory pages should exist alongside individual item pages for unused items. It makes more sense to document everything, especially since some, like the DUMMY, are obtainable because of developer oversight or through glitches. Although we ourselves take a neutral stance on modding, it could also be useful for people looking to modify their games, with a save editor or something else. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 16:24, May 15, 2022 (EDT)
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== Delete single-character species pages ==
  
:{{Support}} per Chubby Bub. Glitchers and modders could benefit from articles on specific unused items. [[User:Senor Mexicano|Senor Mexicano]] ([[User talk:Senor Mexicano|talk]]) 07:29, May 17, 2022 (EDT)
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There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:
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{{Columns-list|
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*[[Axolotl]] ([[Dr. Shrunk]])
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*[[Camel]] ([[Saharah]])
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*[[Fox]] ([[Redd]])
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*[[Frill-necked lizard]] ([[Frillard]])
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*[[Fur seal]] ([[Phineas]])
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*[[Giraffe]] ([[Gracie]])
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*[[Gray langur]] ([[Niko]])
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*[[Gyroid (species)]] ([[Lloid]])
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*[[Manatee]] ([[Wardell]])
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*[[Panther]] ([[Katrina]])
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*[[Peacock]] ([[Pavé]])
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*[[Pigeon]] ([[Brewster]])
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*[[Reindeer]] ([[Jingle]])
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*[[Skunk]] ([[Kicks]])
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*[[Sloth]] ([[Leif]])
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*[[Tapir]] ([[Luna]])
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*[[Turkey]] ([[Franklin]])
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*[[Walrus]] ([[Wendell]])
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}}
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'''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the [[fox]], [[gray langur]], [[peacock]], and [[reindeer]] pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. [[Audie]] and [[Chief]] on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for [[Savannah]], flamingo for [[Flora]], etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).<br>I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being [[raccoon]]. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} I feel that it ''would'' be a good cleanup, but yeah,  as stated above, some pages show some details, like [[Julia]] resembling a [[Peacock]] or [[Deli]] looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Oppose}} While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future ''Animal Crossing'' games comes around. Case in point: ''New Horizons'' brought several new characters like [[C.J.]], [[Flick]], [[Daisy Mae]] and [[Gullivarrr]], which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to ''New Horizons'' also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from [[Erik]] and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} Could we not merge them all into a single page? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)
  
:{{Support}} - It makes sense that this info be moved to the item page, good suggestion! I would also argue that [[Super Mario Bros.]] and [[The Legend of Zelda]] should also get their own pages. Just because they are unobtainable through normal gameplay doesn't mean that they aren't items; they should still be documented as such. The "Obtain via" field could list [[Cheating device]]. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:10, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
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== Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages ==
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== Should items only available in DnM, DnM+, or DnMe+ have their Japanese name in the prose? ==
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Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. [[Blanca]] and [[Katie]] in the older games would be especially difficult. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
Sort of similar to the discussion from [[Nookipedia talk:The Roost/2021#Add the villager's Japanese name in main prose|last year]], I would feel like having the Japanese name in the prose for items that only appear in {{DnM}}, {{DnM+}}, or {{DnMe+}} would be beneficial since they don't really have an official name and are just translated. Any thoughts? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 19:45, April 23, 2022 (EDT)
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== Cantonese spelling ==
: {{Support}} - Sounds good to me! Should also be paired with {{t|conjectural}}. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:14, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
 
: {{Support}} - Sounds like a good idea to me, too. It's good that the items have best possible translations, but the original Japanese names would be nice to include. --[[User:Piranhapete|Piranhapete]] ([[User talk:Piranhapete|talk]]) 21:45, June 3, 2022 (EDT)
 
: {{Support}} for both this ''and'' the discussion on villagers with the same issue, which I don't believe came to a conclusion either. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:51, June 3, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Issues with pages using cargo tables with a lot of entries ==
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I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.
  
As of now, the following pages here are having issues loading at all, and at this point trying to fix any issues is inoperable at this point:
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You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:
* [[Furniture/New Horizons/Black]]
 
* [[Furniture/New Horizons/White]]
 
* [[Furniture/New Horizons/Yellow]]
 
* [[Poki/Items purchasable with Poki]]
 
I'm suggesting that we cut our losses and split these pages up into sections, but I can't tell what sections to choose. It's likely for the latter that it is split up between furniture, clothing, interior, and other items, but I'm conflicted with the other pages. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 15:50, May 9, 2022 (EDT)
 
:I think that furniture could be split between the different types (Housewares, Miscellaneous, Wall-mounted & Ceiling decor). Alternatively, is the problem with Cargo having to perform such a large database search, or is it an issue of the page being too large? Is it possible for us to replace the page with a static table (now that NH will seemingly not be updated anymore)? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:23, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Add a table of catchphrases in different languages ==
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'''Blathers (傅達)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: fuh daaht<br>
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Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6
  
With all the effort made in romanizing and adding meaning to each name of a villager using {{t|Foreignname}}, I think doing the same to catchphrases would be nice. We already have Japanese catchphrases translated w/ their meaning for Japanese e-Reader cards, I think doing one for each language, no matter what they mean, would also suffice. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:25, May 13, 2022 (EDT)
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'''Brewster (老闆)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: lóuh báan<br>
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Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2
  
{{comment}} - Are you proposing this table be added to the bottom of each villager page? Or is this a separate list/page where all villager catchphrases are listed? Or both? It would be nice to have a master list to link to from the [[catchphrase]] page. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:31, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
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'''Isabelle (西施惠)'''<br>
: The latter is definitely what I want to accomplish after I get the Cargo values set up, but for my original suggestion, yes, I meant for the bottom of each villager's page. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:14, June 2, 2022 (EDT)
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Yale romanization: sāi sī waih<br>
::{{Support}} - I think this is a cool idea and it would be interesting to see how similar or different their catchphrases are across different localizations. I think it'd be helpful to see a mockup for how it would look (maybe get started on a template?), and we should probably also decide on whether to rename the "Names in other languages" to something more broad? "Localization differences" is almost there but I think mis-characterizes the nature of the section... "Key translations"? I don't know, perhaps you have some ideas? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 14:33, June 7, 2022 (EDT)
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Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6
  
== Update main page trivia  ==
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Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)
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:I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin Hanyu Pinyin] which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwoyeu_Romatzyh Gwoyeu Romatzyh] which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
  
Should we update the trivia on the main page? I think we should update it every month or so and maybe get some people for it. I need your opinions, [[User:Toadalind|Toadalind]] ([[User talk:Toadalind|talk]]) 12:48, May 23, 2022 (EDT)
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::Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_romanization_of_Cantonese one for Cantonese]. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyutping Jyutping] as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_Pinyin Cantonese Pinyin], which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:I think it would be nice if we had a group of users responsible for monthly trivia updates, similar to the fanart curators for the featured fanart (which is also on the Main Page). [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 13:31, May 23, 2022 (EDT)
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:::It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::::Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from [https://hongkongvision.com/tool/cc_py_conv_en this site], and I find the spelling for [[Marina]] was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold"></span>]] 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
== Move the "In other games" section from the infobox to its own section ==
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== A new Project? ==
  
At the time I am writing this, we currently have item pages for the {{PG}} series of games on Nintendo 64 and Nintendo GameCube, {{WW|short}}, and {{NH|short}}. However, given that we will eventually cover the other games in the series ({{CF|short}}, {{NL|short}}, {{HHD|short}}, {{AMF|short}} to some extent, and {{PC|short}}), and each will need its own item page eventually and identifiers for each and every game, I propose to move the "In other games" section in each of the item infoboxes and place them under their own section at the bottom of each item page, as to not bloat the section height. This will need to be done automatically. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 23:12, May 25, 2022 (EDT)
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Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the [https://animalcrossing.wikidex.net/wiki/Portada Spanish] and [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/ German] Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
:{{comment}} - I see where you're coming from, and I agree that items which are featured in many different games will have a particularly long infobox once the item pages from all games have been created. I would support adding ''additional'' links in a "See also" section at the bottom of the item page, but I think that the info is important enough to stay in the infobox. I would suggest merging the "In other games" section with the "Appearances" section, so only the abbreviated game titles appear, but the links go to the appropriate item page (e.g. {{Infobox Appearance|game=AC|appears=yes|}} goes to [[Item:Froggy Chair (Animal Crossing)]], not [[Animal Crossing]]). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:53, June 1, 2022 (EDT)
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I actually just looked at the [[Nookipedia_talk:The_Roost#Non-English_names_as_redirects.2Fdisambiguation_pages|top post]] here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I ''also'' saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the [[Nookipedia_talk:Projects|Projects talk page]]: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::The problem is that the {{PG}} infoboxes (e.g. {{t|PGFurniture}}) uses an "Appearance" system, so I don't think this suggestion of renaming "In other games" would suffice, especially so since what you suggest is using {{t|Infobox Appearance}} for this task, right? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:16, June 2, 2022 (EDT)
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:Hi, that was my idea and I think thats super cool! Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#D7A5E0">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#F3B4EF">Talk</span>]]) [[File: Bob NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 15:27, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
:::I realize that {{t|PGFurniture}} uses an "Appearance" system, and I'm saying that its functionality should be changed so that it provides link to specific item pages rather than game pages. We would still keep all other functionality (cargo storage of information about what game(s) the item appears in), it's just the link that would change. So in the case of the Froggy Chair the appearance section would look like this: {{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (Animal Crossing)|DnM]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (Animal Crossing)|DnM+]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (Animal Crossing)|AC]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (Animal Crossing)|DnMe+]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (Wild World)|WW]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (City Folk)|CF]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (New Leaf)|NL]]|appears=yes}}{{Infobox Appearance|game=[[Item:Froggy Chair (New Horizons)|NH]]|appears=yes}}. This would reduce the vertical length of the template as the link text is shortened to the game abbreviation and more than one link can appear on a line. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 14:50, June 7, 2022 (EDT)
 
::::While I see your point of keeping functionality, I don't like the concept of using {{t|Infobox Appearance}} simply because A) the name is hidden bneath those templates and B) it still doesn't address the issue of keeping the infobox as short as possible. Add {{HHD}} and {{PC}}, and the data containers inches up in height once more. It's still making the infobox go up in height, and the solution to address how {{t|PGFurniture}} function is not great to me. I still believe in having a separate section dedicated for "In other games", but I would like to see what others think about this. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:13, June 7, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Reviving the idea of polls ==
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==Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant==
  
This is a far-fetched idea, and given how little relevance the polls have, I'd figured this might be in vain.
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Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The [[Item:Rubber_tree_(Wild_World)|Rubber Plant]] was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!)
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[[User:MadRayne|MadRayne]] ([[User talk:MadRayne|talk]]) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)
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:It looks like all the items in the [[House Plant Set]] had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)
  
But I've been thinking of reviving polls, this time with a commission review similar to [[Nookipedia:Featured Fanart]] and [[mariowiki:MarioWiki:Polls|MarioWiki's poll system]]. It's a hard thing to do, given that A) we haven't done these since October 25, 2017, and B) we've missed the majority of traffic from when {{NH}} came out and when version {{NHVer|2.0}} and {{HHP|short}} came out. But I figured that there is an opportunity to gain community interest, as we did when we decided to capitalize the first letter of each item name, and there are plenty of topics we could cover with the polls.
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== Userbox question ==
  
There are only some things left question, like what intervals do we want to update polls, and how to gain poll suggestions. I was thinking of updating the polls every month,  and gaining suggestions both from Google Forms and a dedicated Discord channel.
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Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? [[User:Ceariah|Ceariah]] ([[User talk:Ceariah|talk]]) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)
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:You can go to the [[Userbox]] page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]''''' [[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px|If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me!]] 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)
  
What do you think? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 00:30, June 4, 2022 (EDT)
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== i got a black rose by accident ==
  
:{{Support}}. I've been thinking about this recently as well. I think this would be a good thing to revive, especially as polls are on the main page and therefore highly visible. One poll a month shouldn't be too much to handle, especially if we get a committee together of three or four users. I agree with giving polls a Discord channel similar to how fanart has one, with only staff and poll committee members having access. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:10, June 4, 2022 (EDT)
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woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.  
:{{Support}} - I like the idea. If approved, I will install [[mw:Extension:AJAXPoll]] to make it easy to implement/update the poll each month. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 11:19, June 4, 2022 (EDT)
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[[File:NL Unintended Black Rose.png|thumb]]
:{{Support}} Sounds Great! [[User:Toadalind|💜Toadalind💜]] ([[User talk:Toadalind|talk]]) 23:56, June 15, 2022 (EDT)
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[[Category:Active discussions]] --[[User:Erick7477719|Erick7477719]] ([[User talk:Erick7477719|talk]]) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)  
:{{Support}} Sounds good to me. {{User:Kalina70/Sig}} 20:00, July 4, 2022 (CET)
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:There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! [[User:DriftveilBread|DriftveilBread]] ([[User talk:DriftveilBread|talk]]) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
:{{Support}} Love the idea to bring them back and they have been sorely missed by me since we discontinued them, so I highly support bringing them back and reviving the concept of them on the [[Main Page|main page]] once again! <3 <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 15:48, July 9, 2022 (EDT)
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::Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)
  
== How can I replace an image of a file? ==
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==If I find vandalism, where should I report it?==  
  
I wanted to contribute somehow to the wiki, so I tried to find low-quality images to replace. I found what I think is a better quality image of the Japanese Amiibo Festival logo, but I'm new to most of this stuff and I'm not sure how to replace the image with the newer quality one. How do I do this? Please and thank you! {{Unsigned|Ramune}}
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Where do I report users? [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)
: You can upload a new image by clicking this text on an image page:
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:[[Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard]] is the best place on-wiki. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
: [[File:Reupload text.png|250px]]
 
: -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:20, June 9, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Song pages for "Hazure" songs ==
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== Memes ==
{{Archive top|result=Overall support for the creation of the "Hazure" invalid song pages. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:37, August 24, 2022 (EDT)}}
 
I think the three invalid songs in {{NH|short}} merit their own song pages. Here's why:
 
* We had pages for [[Animal City]], [[Goodbye]] and [[Drive]] long before {{NH|short|nolink}} came out, and these pages were changed/expanded when it did; the same can be done for these songs when the next game releases
 
* They are all present on ''[[Atsumare Dōbutsu no Mori: Original Soundtrack 2]]'', where they are given official Japanese names (はずれ01, はずれ02, はずれ03) and credited to [[Kazumi Totaka]]
 
* Hazure02 is getting a special remix on ''[[Atsumare Dōbutsu no Mori: Totakeke Music Instrumental Selection]]''
 
* They each have enough that can be said about the song itself for a page, in my opinion.
 
* They have unobtainable items in-game.
 
And all that makes me think these songs are notable enough not to be lumped together at the bottom of the [[secret song]] page. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 01:23, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Comment}} I'm interested in this proposal, but I would love to see an example on how these pages are going to look. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:37, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
::{{Comment}} Ok. I made a potential idea at [[User:Chubby Bub/Hazure02]]. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 03:49, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - these songs are just as notable as any other K.K. song, especially now that Nintendo has acknowledged them on the soundtrack collection and given them official names. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 12:41, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}}, per AlexBot above. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 12:43, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} That example page looks great! Is the plan to wedge these 3 songs in between [[K.K. Robot Synth]] (the last numbered song) and [[K.K. Chorale]] (the first numbered song)? If so, some modifications to {{T|Song Header}} will be required (I think), but once that roadblock is taken care of, these would be 3 excellent pages. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 17:53, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
::{{Comment}} Yes, I would agree with that change to the song header. Currently the songs are internally numbered 901-903, and I think that should be reflected (maybe with a note), but presumably they will be given sequential numbers in the next game. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 20:33, June 19, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} per all. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 23:03, July 6, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} all for new music pages!!!!! I shall post an idea for these sort of pages at [[this link right here]] -nookfan 07:06, July 13, 2022 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} Per all! -[[User:Toadalind|💜Toadalind💜]] ([[User talk:Toadalind|talk]]) 23:10, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
 
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==help me==
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Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)
please can you help me I do not know how to fill in infoboxes or anything really for I am new to nookepedia -nookfan 07:02, July 13, 2022 (EDT)
 
:[[:Category:Infobox templates|Most of the infoboxes have documentation on how to use them.]] You can copy-paste the provided example and fill out each parameter or remove parameters as needed. I'm assuming you might be trying to fill out {{T|Infobox Special}} on your user page. Here's a generic example:
 
  
<pre>{{Infobox Special
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:No. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman]] - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
|name = Nookfan
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on [[Nookipedia:Discord]] that is much more suitable for memes. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::I said "'''''Related to'''''" animal crossing. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
|caption = ''Hello''
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:::They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
|species = Raccoon
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:::If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow ''Animal Crossing'' meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "[[List of Animal Crossing references in other media]]" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::::How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
|service = Wiki editing
 
|birthdaymonth = January
 
|birthday = 1
 
|sign = Aries
 
}}</pre>
 
  
:You can paste that onto your userpage and change the parameters appropriately. If you're confused in general about editing on Nookipedia, I recommend reading the [[Help:Contents|help pages]]. There are some other useful links in the welcome message on [[User talk:Nookfan|your talk page]]. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 06:58, July 14, 2022 (EDT)
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== Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality ==
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{{Archive top|result=There is consensus to remove this information from the infobox and integrate within the body of the articles. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 15:56, May 26, 2024 (EDT)}}
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I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from [[Template:Infobox Species]] and [[Template:Infobox Personality]] and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard [[Template:Infobox]].
  
== Changed German names ==
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What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with [[Template:Infobox]].
  
So while browsing the German ''Animal Crossing'' Wiki, I have found '''ten''' cases of villagers that had their German name changed that we haven't documented on here, yet. These are:
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Any thoughts? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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::Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for [[Template:Infobox Personality]], the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for [[big sister]] and [[smug]], which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for [[Template:Infobox Species]], but again I could just see this being moved altogether.
  
•[[Dobie]] used to be called "'''Fritz'''" in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Sigmund'''" in ''New Leaf''. [[Frobert]] has his former name.
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::With that said, I {{Support}} their deletion. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Oppose}} I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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::The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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{{Archive bottom}}
  
•[[Gruff]] used to be called "'''Siggi'''" in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Gregor'''" in ''New Leaf''. [[Antonio]] has his former name.
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== Notice Box template cleanup ==
  
[[June]] used to be called "'''Regina'''" in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Juna'''" in ''New Leaf''. [[Rhonda]] has her former name.
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As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework [[Template:Notice Box]]. I've already come up with a ''massively'' simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
  
[[Kitty]] used to be called "'''Katja'''" in ''Population Growing'' and ''City Folk'', but was renamed "'''Karen'''" in ''New Leaf''. [[Katie]] has her former name. Although I find it rather skeptical that Kitty and Katie supposedly shared a German name in ''City Folk'' (Similarly, Gracie and Bangle were both named "Griffa" in Italian ''Population Growing''). Either the German Wiki made a mistake or there really were two characters named "Katja" in the same game.
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===Templates for discussion===
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I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:
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* [[Template:Event]]
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**No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in [[Template:Infobox Event]] to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.
  
[[Leopold]] kept his English name in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Leandro'''" in ''New Leaf''. No other character has had "Leopold" as their German name.
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* [[Template:Expansion]]
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**Has a lot of overlap with [[Template:Missing Information]], and incomplete sections should be using [[Template:Stub]]. We could merge this with Missing Information and alter it to not only refer to empty sections (which should be removed from articles anyway IMO).
  
[[Lolly]] used to be called "'''Ferdi'''" in ''City Folk'', but was renamed "'''Feline'''" in ''New Leaf''. No other character has had "Ferdi" as their German name.
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* [[Template:Future Page]]
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* [[Template:TemplateWIP]]
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**Neither of these are used very much, and are basically the same thing as [[Template:Construction]]. These could be deprecated or deleted.
  
[[Peanut]] used to be called "'''Pia'''" in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Paulina'''" in ''Wild World''. [[Pinky]]'s German name is also "Pia", but strangely, the German Wiki does not state that she had a name change. If accurate, then that would mean German ''Population Growing'' literally had two villagers named "Pia". This is another case where I do have to question the German Wiki's legitimacy.
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* [[Template:NH Content]]
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**Was used specifically around the launch of {{NH|short}} and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.
  
[[Sandy]] used to be called "'''Sandra'''" in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Senta'''" in ''New Leaf''. [[Gladys]] has her former name.
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* [[Template:Rewrite]]
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* [[Template:To-do]]
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**Both of these overlap with [[Template:Cleanup]], though the latter covers more use cases, and is clearer than the to-do one. These could all be merged IMO.
  
[[Tiffany]] used to be called "'''Michele'''" in ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk'', but was renamed "'''Michelle'''" in ''New Leaf''. No other character has had "Michele" as their German name.
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--[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
  
•[[Tybalt]] used to be called "'''Tristan'''" in ''Population Growing'', but was renamed "'''Arne'''" in ''New Leaf''. [[Moe]] (who was called "'''Mia'''" in German ''Wild World'') would gain the name "Tristan" starting with German ''City Folk''.
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:* {{t|Event}} - Agree. On pages where the template might be used, version exclusivity is already mentioned in the first line. Also official WiFi support for the applicable games has ended so very few users will be looking to attend these events anyway. Also agree that it makes sense to highlight this info in the infobox.
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:* Agree with {{t|Expansion}} x {{t|Missing Information}} merge.
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:* I actually like {{t|Future Page}} because when used properly it helps us see what pages other users are working on in their sandboxes, as it has an associated category. Its counterpart {{t|TemplateWIP}} is less useful/it can go.
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:* Agree that {{t|NH Content}} should be made generic. Maybe turn it into Template:New Content?
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:* Toss {{t|Rewrite}} & {{t|To-do}}, agree that {{t|Cleanup}} is good enough on its own. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:22, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
  
As I stated with the Kitty and Peanut sections, I do question how accurate the German Wiki is and these do need a full investigation, but I did want to bring this to the attention of Nookipedia and these names should be noted on the appropriate pages if any of them do turn out to be true. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 13:04, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
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: {{Support}} for any that deals with deprecation/deletion/merger. As for {{t|NH Content}}, I would definitely support repurposing it for future game content. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 21:52, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
:{{Comment}} After comparing these findings against the data spreadsheets for each game, I can confirm that all of these name changes are accurate with the datamined names (even the two "Pia"s in {{PG|nolink}} and Kitty's name being "Katja" in {{CF|short|nolink}}). '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:24, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
 
::Very well then. I shall be adding all the defunct German names to the langtables. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 16:26, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Non-English names as redirects/disambiguation pages ==
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:* {{t|Event}}: Agree on deprecate or delete. I think a full notice like that at the top of the page is too excessive. Region exclusivity is sufficiently covered in the lead prose (and perhaps the infobox).
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:* {{t|Expansion}}: Agree on merging.
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:* {{t|Future Page}}: I'm fine with this one. Might not see frequent use, but nice to have for drafts and sandboxes. {{t|TemplateWIP}} is kind of repetitive and can be merged/deprecated/deleted.
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:* {{t|NH Content}}: Deprecate, or turn more generic if possible. IMO don't delete, good to have for history's sake.
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:* {{t|Rewrite}} & {{t|To-do}}: Agree on tossing, merge into {{t|Cleanup}}. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 23:50, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  
So I have been thinking of an idea that could potentially benefit any of our non-English native readers (who may be more familiar with the non-English names of certain villagers/characters), and my idea is to take all of the villager/character names that were never used in English localizations and turn them into redirects. For example, the name "Xavier" is exclusive to the French version of ''Animal Crossing'', being the name used for Pigleg, so if a French reader wants to look for "Xavier" on this Wiki, a redirect might help.
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===Standardising color schemes===
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I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.  
  
For the names that have been used by multiple characters, those should be disambiguation pages. For instance, the name "Pablo" was used for three different villagers, all in different languages: Chico in German, Claude in Spanish, and Otis in Italian. It should look something like this:
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I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).  
:''Pablo may refer to three villagers in the {{SER}}:
 
  
:''*The German name of [[Chico]], a [[mouse]] villager.
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{| class="styled"
:''*The Spanish name of [[Claude]], a [[rabbit]] villager.
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! Category
:''*The Italian name of [[Otis]], a [[bird]] villager
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! Description
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! Templates
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|-
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! Nookipedia
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| All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.
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|
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*[[Template:Featured Article Notice]]
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*[[Template:Inactive Project]]
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*[[Template:Project Leader]]
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*[[Template:Policy]]
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*[[Template:Proposed Policy]]
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*[[Template:Protected talk page]]
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*[[Template:Vacation]]
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|-
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! System
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| System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.
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|
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*[[Template:Edit Notice]]
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*[[Template:Edit Notice API]]
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*[[Template:Edit Notice Cargo Table]]
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*[[Template:High Risk Template]]
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*[[Template:Lua Notice]]
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*[[Template:No Move]]
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*[[Template:Preserve Redirect]]
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|-
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! Warning
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| Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.
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|
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*[[Template:Block]]
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*[[Template:BlockDirector]]
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*[[Template:CommunityBan]]
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*[[MediaWiki:Filehist-help]]
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|-
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! Advisory
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| Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using [[Template:Content Notice]]).
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|
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*[[Template:Archive]]
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*[[Template:Cheat]]
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*[[Template:Construction]]
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*[[Template:Deprecated]]
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*[[Template:Future Release]]
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*[[Template:Temporary]]
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|-
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! Editing
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| Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.
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|
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*[[Template:Cleanup]]
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*[[Template:Image]]
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*[[Template:Missing Information]]
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*[[Template:Music Wanted]]
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*[[Template:Orphan]]
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*[[Template:Research Needed]]
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*[[Template:Update]]
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*[[Template:Video Wanted]]
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|-
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! Request
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| Editor-focused notices for page change requests.
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|
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*[[Template:Move Request]]
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*[[Template:Merge Request]]
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*[[Template:Split Request]]
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*[[Template:Delete]]
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|-
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! Game Update
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| This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.
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|
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*[[Template:Game Update]]
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|}
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--[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
  
The only concern I have is if the German-exclusive names should be turned into redirect/disamb pages since we already have an [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/start affiliated German Wiki] that mainly covers the German localization stuff, but other than that, I don't see any problem with this.
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
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:Great idea! This makes sense and I think will help give our pages/the site a more cohesive look. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:28, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I like the idea as well, per Sunmarsh's remarks! 😄 <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 17:49, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think it looks really nice! I think that it’s cool. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#D7A5E0">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#F3B4EF">Talk</span>]]) [[File: Bob NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 15:25, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
  
Any objections to this idea? [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 05:40, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
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== Page Creation Request ==
:{{Support}} This sounds like a nice idea. Also although the German wiki exists, German visitors may still visit Nookipedia and search for a villager via the search bar out of curiosity, so it would still be good to have German redirect/disambiguation pages. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:47, August 2, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Discussion on dialogue pages ==
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I Want To Create A Page Request For Something I Want To Call " Terry Cloth Nightcap Colors By Villager In Animal Crossing New Horizons"[[Special:Contributions/70.70.61.15|70.70.61.15]] 11:12, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'm not sure if an entire page for that is necessary. That information could go in the {{I|terry-cloth nightcap|NH}} item page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 22:31, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
  
While I believe these pages have some sort of place on this wiki, I believe that the way they are presented is inconsistent and unformatted. Compare [[Mr. Resetti/Animal Crossing dialogue]] with [[The Roost/New Horizons dialogue]].
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== What pages should I edit? ==
  
It's long overdue at this point, but I'm willing to have a standardization format for dialogue pages at this point. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:09, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
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Hello guys! I just created an account on this wiki, and I'd really appreciate it if I could get a couple suggestions on what pages I should edit.
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Any Ideas?[[User:TJS113|TJS113]] ([[User talk:TJS113|talk]]) 09:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
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:I would recommend the gallery pages, because they definitely need more images on them. [[User:NookipediaCrossing|NookipediaCrossing]] ([[User talk:NookipediaCrossing|talk]]) 21:41, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
  
:I much prefer the format of the New Horizons page. I think we should work on getting the dialogue pages for older games up to that standard. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:15, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
 
  
== Portuguese names ==
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== Keeping track of villagers ==
  
So while doing some browsing, I have found 11 pages that have the Brazilian flag in their langtables:
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is there a way to see when your villagers came and left my island? i forgot to write it down :( [[User:Charlotte|Charlotte]] ([[User talk:Charlotte|talk]]) 22:29, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
*[[Animal Crossing: Sweet Day]]
 
*[[Animal Crossing Calculator]]
 
*[[Animal Crossing Clock]]
 
*[[Animal Crossing Plaza]]
 
*[[Fortune Cookie]]
 
*[[Harvey]]
 
*[[Isabelle]]
 
*[[Island Tour Creator]]
 
*[[Jack]] (only for the "Czar of Halloween" title)
 
*[[Player]]
 
*[[Villager (Super Smash Bros. series)]]
 
  
As far as I'm aware, no mainline ''Animal Crossing'' game has ever had a Portuguese localization, so we only have spin-offs and crossovers to go off of.
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==Question from {{U|82.69.99.76}}==
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I've been using Nookipedia a lot lately and it's so helpful so I wanted to help edit where I can but I can't seem to be able to. I've tried editing Julian's villager page because for some reason the sentence regarding his music hobby is broken (cut in half and repeats), and I've also noticed that the species for Snooty the anteater is missing in the NL villager tables but not sure how to fix it... Perhaps someone else can? {{Unsigned|82.69.99.76}}
  
First off, I know for sure Villager got their name from stuff like ''Mario Kart 8'' and both versions of ''Smash 4'', which do have Portuguese localizations.
 
  
Second, there are only two ''Animal Crossing'' spin-offs that have both a Portuguese translation and every character from a mainline installment available: ''Plaza'' and ''amiibo Festival'', with both have the entirety of ''New Leaf''{{'}}s  roster (albeit only the vanilla version), with the latter game also having Lottie.
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[[Category:Active discussions]]
  
Additionally, ''Smash 4'' features ''Animal Crossing'' characters that are not in either of the aforementioned games, those being Wisp, Serena, and Frillard (no idea if the Snow Family appears in ''amiibo Festival'', though ).
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== Australia flag ==
  
From this, we can deduce that every villager and special characters available in vanilla ''New Leaf'', in addition to the ones only in ''Smash 4'', have official Portuguese names. However, going by Isabelle and Harvey's pages, it appears they're all likely just the same as their English ones, so it makes me wonder if there's even a point in listing them (then again, we do have all of the Dutch names listed, but Dutch has at least been used in one mainline installment (''New Horizons''), not to mention Dom does have a Dutch-exclusive name, that being Donny).
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I'm continuing this from a discussion started on [[User talk:PanchamBro#Flag of Australia|PanchamBro's talk page]], as it does concern me that the Australian flag has been changed site-wide to the Aboriginal version without any discussion beforehand. Given that this is a change affecting many pages (the flag appears next to release date and DLC information, for example), I feel that any change should ideally be agreed upon first, possibly even as a Proposal. Reasons cited for the change include avoiding confusion with the New Zealand flag (although that one is rarely used on Nookipedia) and human rights violations, but there's disagreement about whether the Aboriginal flag is even official enough to be used as the Australia flag on Nookipedia. Personally, I'd rather use the official flag unless there's an overwhelming case for changing it. Does anyone else have any thoughts? [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 14:13, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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:*I support reverting to the official national flag. I know the Aboriginal flag is one of several official flags, and I recognize the movement to make it ''the'' national flag. However, my understanding is that the Aboriginal flag represents the Aboriginal people of Australia, and I'm not sure it's apt to generalize the flag to mean all of Australia until Australia formally recognizes it as such. We should default to using what is considered the official national flag. [[Template:UB Australian]] was also changed to use the Aboriginal flag - I think we should revert this, but have the flag available as an option via a parameter. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 15:27, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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::I think it would be better if we kept the Aboriginal flag to represent Oceania on this wiki since that's the general market that Nintendo sells at. Leaving only the Australian flag as it, but as a separate file, for users and stuff. Of course, this would also come with discussions on how we handle flags here, because North America doesn't have a unified flag to represent Canada and the United States. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 17:51, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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:*I am also in support with Drago and SH with reverting back to the official flag per their prior points. It might be ''a flag'' of Australia, but in my 20+ years on the internet, I've never seen it used in an official capacity and here, I feel it shouldn't be used as such to lessen confusion and fit more in line with our MoS with other official flags for say the United States, Canada, etc. Unless it was changed on a national/international level in Australia and/or discussed in a proposal with team members, these changes should not have taken place and a more formal process should have been done before mass changes to this flag and another countries were done. <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 02:23, September 15, 2024 (EDT)
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Given the above discussion, I've done the following:
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* Moved the Aboriginal Australia flag from <code>[[:File:Flag of Australia.svg]]</code> to <code>[[:File:Flag of Aboriginal Australia.svg]]</code>
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* <code>[[:File:Flag of Australia.svg]]</code> is now the official national flag of Australia (and used across our articles)
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* {{t|UB Australian}} now displays the offiical national flag again, with an optional <code>aboriginal</code> parameter that changes the userbox colors and displays the Aboriginal Australia flag.
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* Created {{t|UB Aboriginal Australian}} as its own userbox for Aboriginal Australians.
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Thanks, '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 06:06, September 21, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'm late to this discussion, but just thought I'd add my two AUD cents. I think this is a good resolution. I don't want to get too much into it, since it's a complex and nuanced sociopolitcal discussion that isn't relevant here, but as an Australian (who has lived abroad for a long, long time) I've never seen the Australian Aboriginal Flag used to represent the country globally in any official capacity. Having the option of which flag to use in the userbox a good, inclusive idea though. Some users may wish to use it to represent themselves, and should have the option to do so. Meanwhile, many non-Aboriginal Australians support usage of the flag but do ''not'' feel comfortable appropriating it for themselves due its historical and cultural context.  
  
Speaking of Harvey, where did his Portuguese name even come from? None of the games he appears in have Portuguese localizations, so I can only assume it has to have come from non-gaming material.
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:I do think future changes to any flags should be subject to discussion first, unless a nation very clearly changes their national flag on the global stage in an official capacity. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 06:14, October 12, 2024 (EDT)
  
Finally, although the 3DS and Wii U supposedly support Brazilian Portuguese, according to Mario Wiki, the crossover games I mentioned above (''MK8'' and ''Smash 4'') only support the European variant. I can't confirm if this is also the case with both Wii U ''Animal Crossing'' games, but regardless, I question why the langtables use the Brazilian flag for Portuguese rather than the flag of Portugal (especially since both French and Spanish use the flags from their countries of origin and only use the Quebec and Mexican flags when there are regional differences between both of them).
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== Pages with reference errors ==
  
Overall, the main question of this entire discussion is whether we should list all of the characters' (and perhaps some other stuff, too) Portuguese names and if so, whether we should use the Portuguese flag or the Brazilian flag when referring to the language in the langtables, because I find it rather odd that only 4 characters on this entire Wiki have Portuguese names listed on their pages. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 16:51, August 13, 2022 (EDT)
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The reference errors exist because templates themselves have a <nowiki>{{Note}}</nowiki> without a <nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki>.
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:Thanks for letting me know. I'm currently fixing those pages by adding <code><nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki></code> to them. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:20, October 4, 2024 (EDT)
  
== Successful proposal to (re)separate ''Doubutsu no Mori+'' and ''Dòngwù Sēnlín'' ==
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As this will impact a number of articles, I wanted to give a heads up here that [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]]'s proposal to (re)separate ''Doubutsu no Mori+'' and ''Dòngwù Sēnlín'' content has been successful. The proposal can be viewed [[Nookipedia:Proposals/Archive#.28Re.29separate_Doubutsu_no_Mori.2B_and_D.C3.B2ngw.C3.B9_S.C4.93nl.C3.ADn|here]] in the proposal archive. For any interested editors, please coordinate with Chubby and others to update our coverage of these games. Cheers, '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 01:19, August 18, 2022 (EDT)
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For villager pages, should there be an image example on how their HHP vacation home will look like? there's already that for HHA, so why not HHP? [[User:RedPikmin95|RedPikmin95]] ([[User talk:RedPikmin95|talk]]) 11:33, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
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:The Happy Home Designer (HHD) villager boxes utilize house examples that were officially posted by Nintendo of Japan ([[:Category:Happy Home Designer request screenshots|see here for all images]]). For Happy Home Paradise, Nintendo did post a few examples of house requests ([[:Category:Happy Home Paradise promotional screenshots|some can be found here]]), but it's not comprehensive like they did for HHD. This is why HHP doesn't have an equivalent. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:18, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
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  • Our villager pages could use house descriptions. At the top of villager house sections, add a description describing common themes and changes to the villager's house throughout the series. Examples available on Eunice and Alfonso.
  • Add "Appearance" sections to our New Horizons wallpaper and floor pages to describe what they look like. Example at Underwater Wall. Screenshots of all walls and floors located here and here, respectively.
  • Restructure and populate our fossil pages with info for Animal Crossing, Wild World, City Folk, and New Leaf using our new fossil info templates. Our New Horizons info is already complete - see Brachiosaurus for an example for how to replicate.
  • Work on our Pocket Camp coverage; visit Project Pocket Camp for more info. Coverage needed includes Gyroidite Scavenger Events, fortune cookie sets, Happy Homeroom puzzles, and memories.
  • Our merchandise coverage needs lots of expansion! Help expand our existing lists and create new ones using the {{MerchSeries}} and {{MerchCell}} templates.
  • Add "Characteristics" sections to our special character pages. See Redd#Characteristics for an example.
  • Write a synopsis for Pocket Camp memories. Be sure to remove the {{Stub}} template from the Synopsis section when completed in order to remove the article from this list.
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Post new topics below! Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

Add internal name and ID regarding item[edit]

There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the tulip table in Animal Crossing has the filename sum_poptable01 and the internal ID 126C. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)

Support Support for the reasons you've given. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)

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The animal emoji redirects[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. HylianAngel (talk) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: 🐂 🐊 🐒 🐕 🐦 🐵 🐶 🐺 🐻 🦍 They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and they actually utilize emoji redirects, so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:

a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the species pages
b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.

What do you think? HylianAngel (talk) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)

Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. Trig - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

New Project: Project Languages[edit]

I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates. --Sylveon (Autistic and proud!)🍉🌺 08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
I asked my Chinese friend if this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct, because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. Starry Windy 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Villager Quotes[edit]

Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? Omigpine11 (talk) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11

Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the Photo page. I personally Oppose Oppose adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I Support Support adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the Alfonso quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. HylianAngel (talk) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page is a quote lazy villagers say in New Horizons, just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. HylianAngel (talk) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be Coach, Norma, Patty, Rolf, Claudia, Gaston, Coco, and Mira.
I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. HylianAngel (talk) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

Villager catchphrases[edit]

I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.

If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.

While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:

  • The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
    • Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it (example here). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
  • The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example Sherb, the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."

I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? HylianAngel (talk) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

If this is something you're still interested in, I'd love to work with you on implementation! I agree that catchphrases are one of the few unique personality-defining characteristics of a villager (as most of their dialog is shared), and agree we should have a space to talk about the nuances of their catchphrase in different languages. I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're suggesting regarding implementation, though. I can't tell whether you're suggesting to add catchphrases to {{Foreignname}} or whether you're suggesting a new template & section that also includes the given name. I think that having its own section and template is best, and it would appear very similar to Foreignname, which actually doesn't have any headers at all (the meaning of the columns is inferred from the title of the section). Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 02:30, June 27, 2024 (EDT)

I caught the spirit!![edit]

I caught farley!! ~SylveonSig.png 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)

Trig Jegman's File Template[edit]

As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of my file module for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing Template:File Info.

First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.

Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:

  • Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
  • More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
  • Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
  • Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
  • This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.

I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to every single file on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. I have a few examples of use cases here to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:

  • Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
  • Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
  • User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
  • Author — At the suggestion/request of Shams, useful for creative commons files.
  • License — All those licensing templates are here now
  • Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.

I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! Trig - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Support Support - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
Support Support I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Horizons villager box item capitalization[edit]

PanchamBro's bot fixed the capitalization of New Horizons items on almost all villager pages, but since Jacob/Jakey and Spork/Crackle have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. HylianAngel (talk) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This should be fixed now! -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you! HylianAngel (talk) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

wanna join my club???[edit]

it is called bob fan club - unsigned comment from FroggyPotter (talkcontribs)

Sure. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Help with Cargo Tables[edit]

Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here are a couple of resources:
My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! Bassieeee (talk) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Nookipedia:Project Database has some good information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ideas.[edit]

1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project. 2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent requirement for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
OK, Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Discussing our proposal system[edit]

I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".

What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

  • Comment Comment I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  • I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
  • When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  • Comment Comment Agree with Drago on both points. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Translating the wiki[edit]

I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages? Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself. FUGOSHROOM (talk) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM

Delete single-character species pages[edit]

There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:

~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)

Comment Comment For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the fox, gray langur, peacock, and reindeer pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. Audie and Chief on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for Savannah, flamingo for Flora, etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. HylianAngel (talk) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Support Support I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).
I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being raccoon. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Comment Comment I feel that it would be a good cleanup, but yeah, as stated above, some pages show some details, like Julia resembling a Peacock or Deli looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Oppose Oppose While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future Animal Crossing games comes around. Case in point: New Horizons brought several new characters like C.J., Flick, Daisy Mae and Gullivarrr, which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to New Horizons also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from Erik and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. Starry Windy 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Comment Comment Could we not merge them all into a single page? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages[edit]

Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)

Support Support That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. Blanca and Katie in the older games would be especially difficult. HylianAngel (talk) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Cantonese spelling[edit]

I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.

You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:

Blathers (傅達)
Yale romanization: fuh daaht
Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6

Brewster (老闆)
Yale romanization: lóuh báan
Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2

Isabelle (西施惠)
Yale romanization: sāi sī waih
Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6

Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. Starry Windy 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)

I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use Hanyu Pinyin which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include Gwoyeu Romatzyh which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and one for Cantonese. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of Jyutping as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on Cantonese Pinyin, which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. Starry Windy 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from this site, and I find the spelling for Marina was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. Starry Windy 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

A new Project?[edit]

Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the Spanish and German Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)

I actually just looked at the top post here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I also saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the Projects talk page: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Hi, that was my idea and I think thats super cool! Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Bob NL Villager Icon.png 15:27, August 1, 2024 (EDT)

Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant[edit]

Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The Rubber Plant was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!) MadRayne (talk) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)

It looks like all the items in the House Plant Set had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Userbox question[edit]

Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? Ceariah (talk) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)

You can go to the Userbox page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! Briky If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me! 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)

i got a black rose by accident[edit]

woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.

NL Unintended Black Rose.png

--Erick7477719 (talk) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! DriftveilBread (talk) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)

If I find vandalism, where should I report it?[edit]

Where do I report users? Acnh Player (talk) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard is the best place on-wiki. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

Memes[edit]

Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)

No. Trig Jegman - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on Nookipedia:Discord that is much more suitable for memes. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
I said "Related to" animal crossing. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow Animal Crossing meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "List of Animal Crossing references in other media" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality[edit]

There is consensus to remove this information from the infobox and integrate within the body of the articles. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 15:56, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from Template:Infobox Species and Template:Infobox Personality and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard Template:Infobox.

What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with Template:Infobox.

Any thoughts? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for Template:Infobox Personality, the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for big sister and smug, which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for Template:Infobox Species, but again I could just see this being moved altogether.
With that said, I Support Support their deletion. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Notice Box template cleanup[edit]

As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework Template:Notice Box. I've already come up with a massively simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Templates for discussion[edit]

I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:

  • Template:Event
    • No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in Template:Infobox Event to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.
  • Template:NH Content
    • Was used specifically around the launch of New Horizons and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.

--Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

  • {{Event}} - Agree. On pages where the template might be used, version exclusivity is already mentioned in the first line. Also official WiFi support for the applicable games has ended so very few users will be looking to attend these events anyway. Also agree that it makes sense to highlight this info in the infobox.
  • Agree with {{Expansion}} x {{Missing Information}} merge.
  • I actually like {{Future Page}} because when used properly it helps us see what pages other users are working on in their sandboxes, as it has an associated category. Its counterpart {{TemplateWIP}} is less useful/it can go.
  • Agree that {{NH Content}} should be made generic. Maybe turn it into Template:New Content?
  • Toss {{Rewrite}} & {{To-do}}, agree that {{Cleanup}} is good enough on its own. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 01:22, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support for any that deals with deprecation/deletion/merger. As for {{NH Content}}, I would definitely support repurposing it for future game content. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 21:52, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  • {{Event}}: Agree on deprecate or delete. I think a full notice like that at the top of the page is too excessive. Region exclusivity is sufficiently covered in the lead prose (and perhaps the infobox).
  • {{Expansion}}: Agree on merging.
  • {{Future Page}}: I'm fine with this one. Might not see frequent use, but nice to have for drafts and sandboxes. {{TemplateWIP}} is kind of repetitive and can be merged/deprecated/deleted.
  • {{NH Content}}: Deprecate, or turn more generic if possible. IMO don't delete, good to have for history's sake.
  • {{Rewrite}} & {{To-do}}: Agree on tossing, merge into {{Cleanup}}. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:50, August 29, 2024 (EDT)

Standardising color schemes[edit]

I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.

I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).

Category Description Templates
Nookipedia All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.
System System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.
Warning Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.
Advisory Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using Template:Content Notice).
Editing Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.
Request Editor-focused notices for page change requests.
Game Update This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.

--Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Oppose Oppose Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
Great idea! This makes sense and I think will help give our pages/the site a more cohesive look. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 01:28, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I like the idea as well, per Sunmarsh's remarks! 😄 ~PoizonMushro0mPoizonMush Sig.png 17:49, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I think it looks really nice! I think that it’s cool. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Bob NL Villager Icon.png 15:25, August 1, 2024 (EDT)

Page Creation Request[edit]

I Want To Create A Page Request For Something I Want To Call " Terry Cloth Nightcap Colors By Villager In Animal Crossing New Horizons"70.70.61.15 11:12, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

I'm not sure if an entire page for that is necessary. That information could go in the terry-cloth nightcap item page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 22:31, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

What pages should I edit?[edit]

Hello guys! I just created an account on this wiki, and I'd really appreciate it if I could get a couple suggestions on what pages I should edit. Any Ideas?TJS113 (talk) 09:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

I would recommend the gallery pages, because they definitely need more images on them. NookipediaCrossing (talk) 21:41, July 8, 2024 (EDT)


Keeping track of villagers[edit]

is there a way to see when your villagers came and left my island? i forgot to write it down :( Charlotte (talk) 22:29, September 3, 2024 (EDT)

Question from 82.69.99.76[edit]

I've been using Nookipedia a lot lately and it's so helpful so I wanted to help edit where I can but I can't seem to be able to. I've tried editing Julian's villager page because for some reason the sentence regarding his music hobby is broken (cut in half and repeats), and I've also noticed that the species for Snooty the anteater is missing in the NL villager tables but not sure how to fix it... Perhaps someone else can? - unsigned comment from 82.69.99.76 (talkcontribs)

Australia flag[edit]

I'm continuing this from a discussion started on PanchamBro's talk page, as it does concern me that the Australian flag has been changed site-wide to the Aboriginal version without any discussion beforehand. Given that this is a change affecting many pages (the flag appears next to release date and DLC information, for example), I feel that any change should ideally be agreed upon first, possibly even as a Proposal. Reasons cited for the change include avoiding confusion with the New Zealand flag (although that one is rarely used on Nookipedia) and human rights violations, but there's disagreement about whether the Aboriginal flag is even official enough to be used as the Australia flag on Nookipedia. Personally, I'd rather use the official flag unless there's an overwhelming case for changing it. Does anyone else have any thoughts? Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 14:13, September 14, 2024 (EDT)

  • I support reverting to the official national flag. I know the Aboriginal flag is one of several official flags, and I recognize the movement to make it the national flag. However, my understanding is that the Aboriginal flag represents the Aboriginal people of Australia, and I'm not sure it's apt to generalize the flag to mean all of Australia until Australia formally recognizes it as such. We should default to using what is considered the official national flag. Template:UB Australian was also changed to use the Aboriginal flag - I think we should revert this, but have the flag available as an option via a parameter. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 15:27, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
I think it would be better if we kept the Aboriginal flag to represent Oceania on this wiki since that's the general market that Nintendo sells at. Leaving only the Australian flag as it, but as a separate file, for users and stuff. Of course, this would also come with discussions on how we handle flags here, because North America doesn't have a unified flag to represent Canada and the United States. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 17:51, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
  • I am also in support with Drago and SH with reverting back to the official flag per their prior points. It might be a flag of Australia, but in my 20+ years on the internet, I've never seen it used in an official capacity and here, I feel it shouldn't be used as such to lessen confusion and fit more in line with our MoS with other official flags for say the United States, Canada, etc. Unless it was changed on a national/international level in Australia and/or discussed in a proposal with team members, these changes should not have taken place and a more formal process should have been done before mass changes to this flag and another countries were done. ~PoizonMushro0mPoizonMush Sig.png 02:23, September 15, 2024 (EDT)

Given the above discussion, I've done the following:

Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:06, September 21, 2024 (EDT)

I'm late to this discussion, but just thought I'd add my two AUD cents. I think this is a good resolution. I don't want to get too much into it, since it's a complex and nuanced sociopolitcal discussion that isn't relevant here, but as an Australian (who has lived abroad for a long, long time) I've never seen the Australian Aboriginal Flag used to represent the country globally in any official capacity. Having the option of which flag to use in the userbox a good, inclusive idea though. Some users may wish to use it to represent themselves, and should have the option to do so. Meanwhile, many non-Aboriginal Australians support usage of the flag but do not feel comfortable appropriating it for themselves due its historical and cultural context.
I do think future changes to any flags should be subject to discussion first, unless a nation very clearly changes their national flag on the global stage in an official capacity. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 06:14, October 12, 2024 (EDT)

Pages with reference errors[edit]

The reference errors exist because templates themselves have a {{Note}} without a {{Note list}}. Would it be better to create a Note section par page with a single {{Note list}} or to have a {{Note list}} in the footnote of each Table having a note? WulFaz (talk) 09:35, October 4, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm currently fixing those pages by adding {{Note list}} to them. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:20, October 4, 2024 (EDT)

something about HHP[edit]

For villager pages, should there be an image example on how their HHP vacation home will look like? there's already that for HHA, so why not HHP? RedPikmin95 (talk) 11:33, October 10, 2024 (EDT)

The Happy Home Designer (HHD) villager boxes utilize house examples that were officially posted by Nintendo of Japan (see here for all images). For Happy Home Paradise, Nintendo did post a few examples of house requests (some can be found here), but it's not comprehensive like they did for HHD. This is why HHP doesn't have an equivalent. HylianAngel (talk) 15:18, October 10, 2024 (EDT)