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Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
 
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== Add internal name and ID regarding item ==
I have a question.On my phone when I look at a article, it doesn't load correctly and leaves it blank. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:73.123.12.116|73.123.12.116]] ([[User talk:73.123.12.116|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.123.12.116|contribs]]) ''</small>
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{{Archive top|result=There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)}}
:Hi there - can you list the articles you're seeing this issue, or is it all articles? What phone + version of mobile OS are you using? <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 18:28, June 8, 2020 (EDT)
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the {{I|tulip table|PG}} in {{PG}} has the filename <code>sum_poptable01</code> and the internal ID <code>126C</code>. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)
It is every article that has a picture. But if it is a villager or special character It shows the first picture but everything else is a blank white box and doesn't fix when I refresh the page {{unsigned|73.123.12.116}}
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And I'm using a lg. It seems to be just this website. I'm not sure what's going on.
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: {{Support}} for the reasons you've given. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
:What browser do you use? Do you have anything on your phone that could filter web pages (e.g. ad blocking)? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 14:25, June 14, 2020 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
I use Google and I'm not sure... This doesn't happen with other wikis like super Mario wiki {{unsigned|73.123.12.116}}
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:{{Support}} '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:Happened to me too, using Chrome on Android. Enabling desktop view fixed it though. [[User:PinkYoshiFan|PinkYoshiFan]] ([[User talk:PinkYoshiFan|talk]]) 11:46, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
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== The animal emoji redirects ==
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{{Archive top|result=There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)}}
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: [[🐂]] [[🐊]] [[🐒]] [[🐕]] [[🐦]] [[🐵]] [[🐶]] [[🐺]] [[🐻]] [[🦍]]
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They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_emoji they actually utilize emoji redirects], so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:
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a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the [[:Category:Species|species]] pages<br>
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b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.
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What do you think? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)
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::Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)
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== New Project: Project Languages ==
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I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates.
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--[[User:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">Sylveon</span>]] [[User talk:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:magenta">(Autistic and proud!)</span>]]🍉🌺  08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
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:I asked my Chinese friend if [[Marina#Names in other languages|this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct]], because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
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:She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
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:I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)
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== Villager Quotes ==
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Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? [[User:Omigpine11|Omigpine11]] ([[User talk:Omigpine11|talk]]) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11
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:Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the [[Photo]] page. I personally {{Oppose}} adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I {{Support}} adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the [[Alfonso]] quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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::Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page ''is'' a quote lazy villagers say in ''New Horizons'', just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
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::That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:::Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be [[Coach]], [[Norma]], [[Patty]], [[Rolf]], [[Claudia]], [[Gaston]], [[Coco]], and [[Mira]].
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:I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
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== Villager catchphrases ==
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I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.
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If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.
  
== Links to the talk page on notice templates ==
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While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:
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**Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it ([[fireemblem:Marth#Etymology and other languages|example here]]). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
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*The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example [[Sherb]], the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."
  
Hey, I noticed that on notice templates, such as [[Template:Update]], it links to the talk page like this: <code><nowiki>'''[[{{TALKPAGENAME:{{{2|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}}|talk page]]'''</nowiki></code>. However, this is formatted as an internal link, so it creates a red link if the talk page doesn't exist. On WiKirby, this is dealt with by formatting it as an external link (see [https://wikirby.com/wiki/Template:Talk here]). Should that be done with the notice templates? [[Special:Contributions/216.30.159.93|216.30.159.93]] 08:49, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
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I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
:Sounds like good idea, thanks for suggesting it. I'd certainly be all for implementing it into the notice templates. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:22, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
==Resident services==
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:If this is something you're still interested in, I'd love to work with you on implementation! I agree that catchphrases are one of the few unique personality-defining characteristics of a villager (as most of their dialog is shared), and agree we should have a space to talk about the nuances of their catchphrase in different languages. I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're suggesting regarding implementation, though. I can't tell whether you're suggesting to add catchphrases to {{t|Foreignname}} or whether you're suggesting a new template & section that also includes the given name. I think that having its own section and template is best, and it would appear very similar to Foreignname, which actually doesn't have any headers at all (the meaning of the columns is inferred from the title of the section). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 02:30, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
I noticed that this page was going to be deleted but never happened. This page had 3 of those little reminders with character icons like isabelle, blanka, etc. But those were removed. Can someone explain why it was marked for deletion? (Also sorry if there are spelling errors typing on a phone is hard) [[User:Koopadude99|Koopadude99]] ([[User talk:Koopadude99|talk]]) 23:37, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
 
:Looking at the page history, it never was marked with any notice tags, including the delete one... {{User:PinkYoshiFan/sig}} 08:12, July 30, 2020 (EDT)
 
Oh yeah the tune one. The regular one was deemed to be fine but the tune had multiple tags, it was a stub and the talk page didn't exist.[[User:Koopadude99|Koopadude99]] ([[User talk:Koopadude99|talk]]) 10:33, July 30, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Proposing deletion, redirection or recategorisation for numerous deprecated templates ==
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== I caught the spirit!! ==
  
In the past few months we've overhauled a number of templates, and marked many older ones as [[Template:Deprecated|deprecated]]. I think it's time to go through and decide what to do with these. Personally I think we're in a position where many of them can be safely deleted or redirected now (a few need the last remaining uses swapped out for replacements, but that should be trivial to resolve), however some of them might be more suited to being moved to [[:Category:Personal templates]] if users still wish to make use of them for their own user pages. As there's so many of these templates, I figure it would be best to centralise discussion here.
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I caught farley!! ~[[File:SylveonSig.png|link=User:Sylveon|120px]] 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)
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The deprecated templates I'm putting forward here are as follows:
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==Trig Jegman's File Template==
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As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of [[Module:Sandbox/Trig Jegman/File|my file module]] for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing [[Template:File Info]].
*Region tooltips (all superseded by [[Template:Flag]])
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** [[Template:AUS]]
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First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. '''Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.'''
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** [[Template:EU]]
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Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:
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*Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
** [[Template:KO]]
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*More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
** [[Template:NA]]
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*Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
** [[Template:PAL]]
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*Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
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*This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.
** [[Template:UK]]
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** [[Template:Worldwide]]
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I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to '''every single file''' on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. [[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Sandbox|I have a few examples of use cases here]] to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:
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*User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
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*Author — At the suggestion/request of [[User:SuperHamster|Shams]], useful for creative commons files.
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I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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== New Horizons villager box item capitalization ==
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{{U|PanchamBro}}'s bot fixed the capitalization of {{NH|short|nolink}} items on almost all villager pages, but since [[Jacob|Jacob/Jakey]] and [[Spork|Spork/Crackle]] have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
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:This should be fixed now! -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you! [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
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==wanna join my club???==
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it is called bob fan club {{Unsigned|FroggyPotter}}
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:Sure. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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==Help with Cargo Tables==
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Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? [[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)
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:Here are a couple of resources:
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:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo (also check out the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Storing_data Storing data] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data Querying data] subpages)
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:* https://help.fandom.com/wiki/Extension:Cargo
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:* https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Cargo
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:My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! [[User:Bassieeee|Bassieeee]] ([[User talk:Bassieeee|talk]]) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
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::[[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Project Database]] has some good  information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
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== Ideas. ==
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1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project.
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2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club.
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Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
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:Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent ''requirement'' for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
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:The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
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:These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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::OK, Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
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== Discussing our proposal system ==
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I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".
  
*Furniture size (all superseded by [[Template:Size]])
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What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
** [[Template:Small]]
 
** [[Template:Medium]]
 
** [[Template:Large]]
 
** [[Template:Huge]]
 
  
* Villager table cell formatting (all superseded by [[Template:Table cell]])
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*{{Comment}} I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
** [[Template:Amiibo]]
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:I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
** [[Template:Ya]]
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:*I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
** [[Template:Na]]
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::*When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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*{{Comment}} Agree with Drago on both points. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
** [[Template:FCa]]
 
** [[Template:Ft]]
 
** [[Template:Ha]]
 
** [[Template:Ia]]
 
** [[Template:e+]]
 
  
*Navbox templates
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== Translating the wiki ==
** [[Template:NavGroup]] (superseded by [[Template:Navbox]])
 
** [[Template:NavHeader]] (superseded by [[Template:Navbox]])
 
** [[Template:VillagerNavList]] (superseded by [[Template:Navbox Character]])
 
  
*Infoboxes
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I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages?
** [[Template:Infobox Building]] (superseded by [[Template:Infobox Location]])
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Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself.
** [[Template:Infobox Developer]] (superseded by [[Template:Infobox Personnel]])
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[[User:FUGOSHROOM|FUGOSHROOM]] ([[User talk:FUGOSHROOM|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM
** [[Template:Infobox nookstore]] (superseded by [[Template:Infobox Location]])
 
** [[Template:Infobox Person]] (superseded by [[Template:Infobox Personnel]])
 
** [[Template:Infobox PWP]] (superseded by [[Template:Infobox Location]])
 
  
*Miscellaneous
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== Delete single-character species pages ==
** [[Template:Tab]] (this one is both obsolete and non-functional)
 
** [[Template:SpHdr]] (not sure what this was for but it's definitely not needed anymore)
 
** [[Template:Spoiler]] (completely unused as we don't have spoiler warnings)
 
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There's also some deprecated templates which are being phased out, but are still too heavily used to consider their removal at the present time. I'm '''''not''''' proposing we delete or the following templates yet:
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There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:
 
{{Columns-list|
 
{{Columns-list|
* [[Template:BugInfoCF]]
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*[[Axolotl]] ([[Dr. Shrunk]])
* [[Template:BugInfoNL]]
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*[[Camel]] ([[Saharah]])
* [[Template:BugInfoWW]]
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*[[Fox]] ([[Redd]])
* [[Template:Tt]]
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*[[Frill-necked lizard]] ([[Frillard]])
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*[[Fur seal]] ([[Phineas]])
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*[[Giraffe]] ([[Gracie]])
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*[[Gray langur]] ([[Niko]])
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*[[Gyroid (species)]] ([[Lloid]])
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*[[Manatee]] ([[Wardell]])
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*[[Panther]] ([[Katrina]])
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*[[Peacock]] ([[Pavé]])
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*[[Pigeon]] ([[Brewster]])
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*[[Reindeer]] ([[Jingle]])
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*[[Skunk]] ([[Kicks]])
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*[[Sloth]] ([[Leif]])
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*[[Tapir]] ([[Luna]])
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*[[Turkey]] ([[Franklin]])
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*[[Walrus]] ([[Wendell]])
 
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'''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the [[fox]], [[gray langur]], [[peacock]], and [[reindeer]] pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. [[Audie]] and [[Chief]] on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for [[Savannah]], flamingo for [[Flora]], etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).<br>I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being [[raccoon]]. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} I feel that it ''would'' be a good cleanup, but yeah,  as stated above, some pages show some details, like [[Julia]] resembling a [[Peacock]] or [[Deli]] looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Oppose}} While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future ''Animal Crossing'' games comes around. Case in point: ''New Horizons'' brought several new characters like [[C.J.]], [[Flick]], [[Daisy Mae]] and [[Gullivarrr]], which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to ''New Horizons'' also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from [[Erik]] and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} Could we not merge them all into a single page? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)
  
Let me know your thoughts below. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 07:28, August 9, 2020 (EDT)
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== Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages ==
  
:If every template were to be deleted, then the Template:Deprecated would be pointless, the template could just be marked for deletion or deleted. It would be a notice of discontinuation, not deprecation, to use Template:Deprecated for these reasons. For what reason should these templates be deleted? It doesn't save any space to delete them since deleted revisions are still stored, and it doesn't clutter up maintained categories since the templates should be removed to discourage use. The reasons seem to stem purely from personal preference ("It seems disorganized to me for these pages to exist", etc.). However, there ''are'' some reasons why I am against it:
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Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)
:*It would make history accessible only to admins, and inaccessible to the public.
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:{{Support}} That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. [[Blanca]] and [[Katie]] in the older games would be especially difficult. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:**Also, old code might still be useful to reference.
 
:*Old page revisions of pages that used the template would still work or work better than if the templates were deleted.
 
:*A point you also mentioned, it would break user pages that use these. If you wanted to edit someone's page to replace the broken template and the deprecated template and its replacement differ non-trivially we would be '''changing''' another person's user page.
 
:It also wouldn't be harmful to keep them around since in the case that anyone that lands on the page, they know that the template is deprecated because of the notice and won't try to use it. On the contrary, its existence is actually helpful. If the deprecation notice specifies a replacement template, it helps people find what they're looking for even more easily, especially if it is not straightforward to them that the replacement can be used like that (for an HTML example <code><nowiki><center></nowiki></code> is deprecated, but for a new person looking to center text it is easier to find and more immediately obvious than <code><nowiki><div align="center"></nowiki></code>, and they might not even know you could use div for that). Now there is an additional path someone can take to find what they want. At the very least the template would be more useful to someone visiting it than a "This page has been deleted." message. [[User:ShadeTempest|ShadeTempest]] ([[User talk:ShadeTempest|talk]]) 00:54, August 10, 2020 (EDT)
 
::You make some good points. As I said, some of these might be more suited to be marked as Personal Templates, or even redirected to others. I'm going to alter the title to reflect that, since it's not strictly meant to be a discussion about deletion and I shouldn't have lead with that.
 
::We don't have to delete all or (any) of them, but I don't think there's any value left in, say, keeping the numerous table cell templates around for example since they've all been merged into one. I think there is a benefit to keeping others for personal use, e.g. the Navbox templates, so that's why I want to open the discussion to decide what to do with each one.
 
::Some of these templates use names that would be good to repurpose in future (e.g. Tab, e+), so moving them to a different page title is another consideration to make as well. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 02:08, August 10, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
::I agree that the decision to keep or delete unused pages of any kind is fairly arbitrary, given that they are never truly deleted and can be recovered if necessary. But while true, I don't find your arguments particularly convincing with the exception of ''"Old page revisions of pages that used the template would still work or work better than if the templates were deleted."''
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== Cantonese spelling ==
  
::The templates in question here are not particularly novel or complex. Furthermore the fact that they have been superseded would imply that a more suitable coding solution has been found for a given application. While it's true that their page history would no longer be accessible to the public, records of all page deletions can be found at [[Special:Log/delete]] and Nookipedia staff would be happy to restore or provide access to a page's history upon request, as appropriate.
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I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.
  
::I think the biggest argument in favor of deletion is that the Visual Editor will still suggest these templates when users begin to type them, even though they shouldn't be used.
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You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:
  
::That said, I think it would be good to discuss whether it makes sense to archive templates that meet both of the following conditions:
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'''Blathers (傅達)'''<br>
::* Are used on a large amount of pages (25+) AND
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Yale romanization: fuh daaht<br>
::* Their removal would make a significant portion of a page's edit history illegible [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 20:50, August 20, 2020 (EDT)
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Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6
  
== Establishing goals and priorities for Nookipedia ==
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'''Brewster (老闆)'''<br>
Given the increased interest and activity on the wiki I thought it might be helpful to start a discussion about Nookipedia's current goals and priorities. The intention here is to develop a current list of projects and/or priorities that the wiki can actively work towards as a collective group, and that are in the best interest of its editors and the wiki as a whole. The outcomes of this discussion could inform things like: the prioritization or implementation of [[Nookipedia:Projects]], a revamp of the 'Things to Do' list here on the Community Fountain, establishing new categories at [[Nookipedia:Maintenance]], setting new tasks on the [https://tasks.nookipedia.com/ Nookipedia Task Board], or the creation of new channels on [[Nookipedia:Discord|Discord]] for the discussion and coordination of wiki projects and initiatives.
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Yale romanization: lóuh báan<br>
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Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2
  
I've identified the following areas of interest for Nookipedia, and would love to hear the community's thoughts on them, as well as hear your own ideas on what Nookipedia should focus on in the coming months:
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'''Isabelle (西施惠)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: sāi sī waih<br>
*'''Nookipedia x data:''' Establishing the wiki as the primary source of queryable data on the {{SER}} not only distinguishes it from other AC wikis, but exposes the wiki to a larger audience through different creative applications.
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Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6
: <u>Proposed goals</u>: Continuing to add data via Cargo as outlined in [[Nookipedia:Project Database|Project Database]], updating and expanding our API to make this data accessible to developers, and encouraging the end-users of these applications to become editors through link-backs to the wiki.
 
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*'''Nookipedia x search:''' Traffic and exposure is largely based on how well we rank in search. Focusing on topics that users are looking for will help us rank better and will ensure that our most popular topics are also our most well-developed topics.
 
: <u>Proposed goals</u>: Identify current [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Animal%20Crossing&geo=US topic trends] and work on improving relevant pages, make sure that these pages also link to other relevant pages to encourage readers to visit other parts of the wiki, and consider utilizing the Guide namespace for more 'how-to' information outside of the scope of general article pages.
 
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*'''Nookipedia x social:''' A social media presence and partnerships with key members of the AC community allow us expand our reach independent of our rank in search.
 
:<u>Proposed goals</u>: Partner with members of the AC community outside of the wikisphere (YouTubers, streamers, bloggers etc.), encourage link-backs to the wiki, and explore new opportunities for the the Community namespace including hosting documentation from our API partners.
 
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These are just the things I've been thinking about and would love to hear your thoughts on this, as well as hear more specific ideas or proposals as I understand these are very broad topics at this stage. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:58, August 22, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:I agree that it is a good time for the Nookipedia community to come to a general consensus on what the wiki should aim to achieve. Regarding partnering with other members of the Animal Crossing community, we have done that before, I believe. We had a partnership with Chuggaaconroy, a YouTuber, when he did a Let's Play of {{NL|short|nolink}} a few years ago, but it was limited. I will see if I can compile a list of prominent members of the Animal Crossing community sometime this week. [[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 01:22, August 24, 2020 (EDT)
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Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)
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:I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin Hanyu Pinyin] which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwoyeu_Romatzyh Gwoyeu Romatzyh] which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
  
==Project stub==
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::Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_romanization_of_Cantonese one for Cantonese]. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyutping Jyutping] as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_Pinyin Cantonese Pinyin], which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
This is a project I'm working on to expand stubs. Not sure if anyone noticed but I have been working on expanding stubs lately. But I'm not sure if this is a thing yet,(you may end it if it there is one.) But I'm creating a stub fixing project. This can be anything, from fish bugs, etc. This does not have a section, just in general. What do you guys think?Koopadude99 00:00, August 23, 2020 (EDT)
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:::It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:Clearly we have too many stubs, but I don't think a project stub is needed. Stubs are [[:Category:Stubs|neatly categorized]] so it isn't difficult to keep track of them all. Maybe stubs could be incorporated into Project Cleanup if Trig agrees, though. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 13:03, August 23, 2020 (EDT)
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::::Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from [https://hongkongvision.com/tool/cc_py_conv_en this site], and I find the spelling for [[Marina]] was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold"></span>]] 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
Ok. Thanks for your input, Drago!Koopadude99 16:35, August 23, 2020 (EDT)
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== A new Project? ==
  
:::I can start integrating stubs into Clean-Up. I will progressively add them when I can. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:24, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
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Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the [https://animalcrossing.wikidex.net/wiki/Portada Spanish] and [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/ German] Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
== A New Page for Villagers' Pings ==
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I actually just looked at the [[Nookipedia_talk:The_Roost#Non-English_names_as_redirects.2Fdisambiguation_pages|top post]] here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I ''also'' saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the [[Nookipedia_talk:Projects|Projects talk page]]: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:Hi, that was my idea and I think thats super cool! Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#D7A5E0">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#F3B4EF">Talk</span>]]) [[File: Bob NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 15:27, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
  
I was thinking... since villagers pinging players has been mentioned many times on this wiki, do you think we should make a page about it to specify to readers what "pinging" actually is? [[File:BonesAMFIcon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]]
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==Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant==
  
I think that is a good idea, but don't we have a page for that already?Koopadude99 18:34, August 23, 2020 (EDT)
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Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The [[Item:Rubber_tree_(Wild_World)|Rubber Plant]] was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!)
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[[User:MadRayne|MadRayne]] ([[User talk:MadRayne|talk]]) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)
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:It looks like all the items in the [[House Plant Set]] had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)
  
:I don't think we have such a page. But it's not a notable enough subject to have one, in my opinion. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 05:34, August 24, 2020 (EDT)
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== Userbox question ==
:Well, I'll wait a bit and see if anyone else replies. [[File:BonesAMFIcon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 09:27, August 24, 2020 (EDT)
 
::I think we can do a kind of page that lists all the reasons a Villager can try to get your attention. It can range from asking to move out, asking a few random questions like how spicy you like food, showing you the letter you sent, asking for a Public Works Project, and so on. {{User:Mario/Sig}} 19:31, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Yeah, that could work. How could we do that? [[File:BonesAMFIcon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 19:37, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
 
::::Well, first we have to document what kind of interactions take place, and then we'll see how a hypothetical article turns out. {{User:Mario/Sig}} 19:40, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
We could also make separate pages for each personality, OR we group them together. I think personality makes sense because they act different depending on what personality that are. Also we can do by game. Like this:
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Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? [[User:Ceariah|Ceariah]] ([[User talk:Ceariah|talk]]) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)
[[Animal Crossing Wild World Pings]]
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:You can go to the [[Userbox]] page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]''''' [[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px|If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me!]] 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)
That page can lead to the personalities in wild world.  
 
Example: "Animal Crossing Wild World Pings"
 
This is a list of all the villager pings in wild world.
 
[[Animal Crossing Wild World Normal Villager Pings]]
 
[[Animal Crossing Wild World Snooty Villager Pings ]]
 
Then it would list the rest. So that's my idea. If it helps I can even create the page for real so we can work on it. Koopadude99 00:44, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
:Well, first, is there a good way to see all ping scenarios? {{User:Mario/Sig}} 02:18, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
::I think I know most of them. I could probably write down a list of them all at some point. [[File:BonesAMFIcon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 10:01, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
Forgot to note: pings vary on friendship levels. I can work on new leaf because it's the one I played the most.  Here is the page that I'm working on: [[Animal Crossing New Leaf Villager pings]] So it would start explaining what pings are, and a list of all of them. I'll organize them so it will be easier to add on to them while I work on the new leaf ones. Koopadude99 17:09, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
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== i got a black rose by accident ==
  
:Just want to point out that we have various [[:Category:Dialogs|dialog pages]] that need expanding, and ping conversations would fit well into there. I think that would be better than the ping pages you're proposing above. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:19, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
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woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.
::Ah, alright then. I'll see what I can do with that. [[File:Bones aF Villager Icon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 17:12, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
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[[File:NL Unintended Black Rose.png|thumb]]
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[[Category:Active discussions]] --[[User:Erick7477719|Erick7477719]] ([[User talk:Erick7477719|talk]]) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)  
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:There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! [[User:DriftveilBread|DriftveilBread]] ([[User talk:DriftveilBread|talk]]) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
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::Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)
  
== Proposal for an expanded image use policy ==
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==If I find vandalism, where should I report it?==
{{Archive top|result=Closing discussion in favor of adopting the proposed policy. The proposed policy has been merged with [[Nookipedia:Upload policy]]. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 09:21, November 12, 2020 (EST)}}
 
As our site continues to grow with new users, I feel an image policy should be put in place in order for consistency between images and consensus on how we should handle images moving forward. Our [[Nookipedia:Upload policy|upload policy]] outlines a few practices, but mainly focuses on the upload process. Below is a drafted image policy, somewhat based on [[mariowiki:MarioWiki:Image use policy|Super Mario Wiki's image use policy]]. It currently covers proposed policies for image formats, screenshots, and artwork. Note that this is a ''proposed'' policy and depending on user consensus, not everything here may make it in the finalized policy; the ultimate goal here to come up with ''a'' standardized policy, with the one below being just one possible direction to go in. Please leave feedback or suggestions below. After learning the general opinions on whether or not we should have an image policy in the first place, I will hold a vote on whether or not we should adopt ''this'' policy.
 
  
[[User:AlexBot2004/Proposed image use policy|Proposed image use policy]] (separate page due to its length) '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:54, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
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Where do I report users? [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)
:I think an image use policy can work. Did we have any problems with users uploading low-quality images? {{User:Mario/Sig}} 19:24, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard]] is the best place on-wiki. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
::No specific problems, but there's always cases of new users not knowing specifically how we want our images, and it's good to have a policy to point them to so they can learn from it. While I doubt most casual editors would go out of their way to read this policy (or any policy for that matter), it's good to have so the staff and other experienced users can follow a standard and enforce it, too. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 01:16, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
::::I like the idea of it, but would prefer to both expand it to all media and would really suggest expanding the 'why' use of images and native image types per console. For example, while the switch natively takes JPG images, most emulation or pre-Wii console captures are PNG. I too would emphasize NOT converting between the file types, especially for the sake of the other. See the following DIV for some suggested changes.
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== Memes ==
  
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Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)
===Image formats===
 
The following three image formats are used on Nookipedia:
 
*PNG – This lossless file type supports transparency, and does not lose quality when generated. This file should be used for artwork, screenshots, sprites, and models.
 
*JPG – This lossy and compressed format is only preferred for photographic material and some types of artwork. It is also to be used for 3DS and Switch screenshots.
 
*GIF – A lossy format, only preferred for animated images and should not be used for static images as it has a low color-depth.
 
*SVG – This vector-based type of artwork should only be used for simple line art, such as official Nintendo artwork.
 
  
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:No. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman]] - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
{{clear}}
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on [[Nookipedia:Discord]] that is much more suitable for memes. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
audio:
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::I said "'''''Related to'''''" animal crossing. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
*MP3 is a lossy...
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:::They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
*FLAC is a lossless...
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:::If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow ''Animal Crossing'' meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "[[List of Animal Crossing references in other media]]" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
*OGG/OGA is a lossy...
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::::How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
  
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== Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality ==
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{{Archive top|result=There is consensus to remove this information from the infobox and integrate within the body of the articles. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 15:56, May 26, 2024 (EDT)}}
video, if supported:
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I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from [[Template:Infobox Species]] and [[Template:Infobox Personality]] and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard [[Template:Infobox]].
*MP4 is a lossy...
 
*OGG/OGV is a lossy...
 
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::::Furthermore, feel free to canibalize anything from [[User:Trig Jegman#What Does That Mean? (FAQ)|my FAQ page]] as they may be useful for the writing as well. Suggested sections include:
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What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with [[Template:Infobox]].
::::*Why do we have different types of files?
 
::::*Is there a difference between JPG and JPEG?
 
::::*Why isn't this gif moving?
 
::::*I thought PNGs were supposed to be transparent
 
::::*Why do I keep seeing "Optimized" on files? What's PNG Monstrous?
 
::::*What's Gamma Brightening?
 
::::*Why should we use OGA and OGV instead of OGG?
 
::::*Why can't I play this OGA/OGV file?
 
::::*I thought we weren't allowed to use MP3
 
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::::Hope this helps. I think this is a good start but would just like a few more details added along the way. Thank you very much! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:48, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:Good stuff and a great start to an image policy. The one thing I'd probably add to the screenshots section is a note that ''an'' image is better than ''no'' image. If a user comes to the wiki, sees an article lacking a photo, and has a small image they wish to upload, I just want to make sure they're not discouraged just because it's not native resolution. Other than that, perfect. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 01:19, October 2, 2020 (EDT)
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Any thoughts? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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::Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for [[Template:Infobox Personality]], the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for [[big sister]] and [[smug]], which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for [[Template:Infobox Species]], but again I could just see this being moved altogether.
  
::Definitely agree with SH re: making sure people aren't discouraged from uploading, even if what they are uploading isn't ideal. One thing I didn't see mention of which I was curious about was the use of .apng. Will the updated Mediawiki build support this format for upload? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 12:01, October 6, 2020 (EDT)
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::With that said, I {{Support}} their deletion. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
:::So we actually already support apng (e.g. [[:File:Underwater Wall NH Screen Capture.png]]), but it has limitations we need to consider, including large filesize and the thumbnailing limit...MediaWiki will only animate thumbnails where (length * width * frames) is below a certain value that I forget. You can see a note beneath the linked image that says "Note: Due to technical limitations, thumbnails of this file will not be animated". So GIFs and APNGs are really only ideal for game sprites and other small animations. APNG also has poor embed support in other apps (e.g. Discord won't animate APNGs), though that's not as big of a concern for us.
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:{{Support}} I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
:::We could add a section for animations with the following bullets, assuming we agree on them:
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:{{Oppose}} I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
:::* Clips from the game should be uploaded as MP4. This is preferred due to its small file size and widespread support. If needed, MP4s can be auto-played within articles by adding the <code>autoplay</code> class (e.g. <code><nowiki>[[File:Example.mp4|thumb|class=autoplay]]</nowiki></code>), which will automatically mute, play, and loop the video.
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::The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
:::* Very short and/or small animations (such as animated sprites) may be uploaded as either GIF or APNG. GIF should only be used if the original file is a GIF; otherwise, APNG is preferred as it preserves quality and color.
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
:::** Note that MediaWiki will not produce animated thumbnails of GIFs and APNGs that have a high resolution and/or many frames (if length * width * frames exceeds ???). If an animated thumbnail is required for a GIF or APNG that is too large, it may either be downscaled or converted to MP4.
 
:::<b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:04, October 6, 2020 (EDT)
 
::::I've added information for APNG and MP4 as well as a note so as not to discourage uploaders. Thank you both for your input! '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:01, October 6, 2020 (EDT)
 
 
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== Page for Blathers' Treasure Trek ==
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== Notice Box template cleanup ==
  
Since Blathers' Treasure Trek is a pretty big part of {{PC|short}}, why isn't there a page for it yet? It's even redlinked on the [[Blathers|blathers page]] itself... [[File:BonesAMFIcon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 15:45, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
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As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework [[Template:Notice Box]]. I've already come up with a ''massively'' simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
:The simple answer is because no one has created it yet (we've got a pretty big gap of Pocket Camp coverage). A red link in an article usually means an article should exist, but just hasn't been made yet. If you're interested in giving it a start, you're welcome to! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 16:04, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
::Okay. I don't play Pocket Camp that much but I'll see what I can find. [[File:BonesAMFIcon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 18:46, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
::Page Created! It took me way longer than I want to admit, but you can find it at [[Blathers' Treasure Trek]]. Enjoy! [[File:Bones aF Villager Icon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 20:54, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Nice job, thank you! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 17:41, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== [[Nookipedia:Featured Fanart|Featured Fanart]] question ==
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===Templates for discussion===
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I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:
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* [[Template:Event]]
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**No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in [[Template:Infobox Event]] to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.
  
Why are there bye weeks and bye years? [[File:Bones aF Villager Icon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 17:10, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
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* [[Template:Expansion]]
:For questions about specific topics, please use the page's talk page (e.g. Nookipedia_talk:Featured_Fanart). But to answer your question: it's because featured fanart takes time and effort, which we don't always have the capacity for. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 17:45, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
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**Has a lot of overlap with [[Template:Missing Information]], and incomplete sections should be using [[Template:Stub]]. We could merge this with Missing Information and alter it to not only refer to empty sections (which should be removed from articles anyway IMO).
::Thanks, I just wasn't sure where to post this. I'm a pretty big noob at this... [[File:Bones aF Villager Icon.png|30px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCbox.png|80px|link=User:Thedarkcave]] [[File:TDCtalk.png|40px|link=User talk:Thedarkcave]] 19:02, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Separating gallery categories ==
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* [[Template:Future Page]]
{{Archive top|result=Closing this discussion in favor to separating gallery categories. I created 6 separate gallery categories for this. For the galleries, [[:Category:Galleries|see here]]. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 02:40, September 17, 2020 (EDT)}}
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* [[Template:TemplateWIP]]
We need to separate galleries for topics. The galleries are like:
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**Neither of these are used very much, and are basically the same thing as [[Template:Construction]]. These could be deprecated or deleted.
*[[:Category:Character galleries]]
 
*[[:Category:Bug galleries]]
 
*[[:Category:Fish galleries]]
 
*[[:Category:Sea creature galleries]]
 
If you have any other suggestions, I'm glad to take it. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 03:20, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} I think that will be good—we definitely have enough gallery pages to warrant the sub-categories. One suggestion I have is to split [[:Category:Character galleries]] into [[:Category:Villager galleries]] and [[:Category:Special character galleries]]. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:54, September 7, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} Maybe we could also create sub-cats for the different species (e.g. Alligator galleries, Duck galleries etc.) seeing as all of the villagers have a gallery page? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 21:29, September 7, 2020 (EDT)
 
{{Archive bottom}}
 
  
== Regarding non-K.K. music pages ==
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* [[Template:NH Content]]
{{Archive top|result=Closing discussion in favor of deletion. Consensus was reached that these songs are just background music and not notable enough for their own pages. All background music pages, including location themes and hourly themes, have been deleted. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:58, November 16, 2020 (EST)}}
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**Was used specifically around the launch of {{NH|short}} and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.
In addition to K.K. Slider songs, we have pages for location themes (i.e. [[Night in City Square]], [[Tom Nook's Chain Jingles]], etc.); however, are these pages really needed? Most of them are no more than a sentence long and could easily be merged with their respective location articles. Additionally, most of these songs don't even have official names and are really not noteworthy enough to warrant their own articles. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 17:28, September 7, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} KK Songs that can't be played in a stereo aren't notable enough to have their own page, nor do they have an official title. I would suggest deleting the page and then if and when we can get song rips from older games we can insert the songs in the relevant infobox? That might not work though for locations or characters that have a lot of song variants or have special songs in multiple games. So maybe we include one song (most recent) in the infobox and then create some sort of section in the article with a template that allows you to play music from different games in the series? Anyway, cross that that bridge when we come to it. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 21:34, September 7, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} You've taken the words right out of my mouth Alex...music other than K.K. Slider's songs is just background music, it's not notable and the tracks have no official names. And they sometimes vary between games, making matters even more confusing. I don't think any other wiki writes about background music in this way. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:07, September 8, 2020 (EDT)
 
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==New skin==
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* [[Template:Rewrite]]
Wow. Did someone make a new skin? Because it looks great!Koopadude99 23:15, September 10, 2020 (EDT)
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* [[Template:To-do]]
:Not actually new, it's from 2018, but with new logo in it. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 23:56, September 10, 2020 (EDT)
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**Both of these overlap with [[Template:Cleanup]], though the latter covers more use cases, and is clearer than the to-do one. These could all be merged IMO.
  
== GCN Islander houses ==
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--[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
[[File:House of Ankha PG (Stage 1).png|thumb|150px|An incomplete islander home for example]]
 
does anyone have images of the animal crossing gamecube islander's complete interior. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:KKMichael|KKMichael]] ([[User talk:KKMichael|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KKMichael|contribs]]) ''</small>
 
{{clear}}
 
== Relevance of non-Animal Crossing Super Smash Bros. content ==
 
I brought this up [[Nookipedia_talk:Community_Fountain/2019#Super_Smash_Bros._content|last year]] and it was brought up again [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Melee|earlier this year]], but I don't think there was ever much of a consensus around the topic. While we should continue to expand our coverage of Animal Crossing content within the SSB series, I think the inclusion of the full rosters and series symbols is a bit excessive, especially when this information ends up taking up most of the page. It would be like the SmashWiki listing all of the villagers in each AC game and their star signs, even though they never make an appearance in Smash. My proposal then, would be to remove the roster images and symbols from their pages here on the wiki (for [[Super Smash Bros. Melee|SSBM]] and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|SSBB]] at the very least, as they feature no playable AC-related characters), and feature simple text lists of the names with links to their relevant pages on the SmashWiki. Would love to hear your thoughts on this and whether you think we should include full rosters for SSB on 3DS/Wii U and SSB Ultimate. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 14:09, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}}. Our coverage of Animal Crossing within the Super Smash Bros. series is already somewhat lacking, so I don't think expanding out to non-AC content is necessary, though I think at least gameplay should be covered in the games with playable Animal Crossing characters. As for the rosters, it could go either way for SSBM and SSBB, but I think they should definitely stay for SSB4 and SSBU (as a simple text list). '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 19:09, October 27, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== NH Villager house exterior screenshots ==
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:* {{t|Event}} - Agree. On pages where the template might be used, version exclusivity is already mentioned in the first line. Also official WiFi support for the applicable games has ended so very few users will be looking to attend these events anyway. Also agree that it makes sense to highlight this info in the infobox.
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:* Agree with {{t|Expansion}} x {{t|Missing Information}} merge.
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:* I actually like {{t|Future Page}} because when used properly it helps us see what pages other users are working on in their sandboxes, as it has an associated category. Its counterpart {{t|TemplateWIP}} is less useful/it can go.
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:* Agree that {{t|NH Content}} should be made generic. Maybe turn it into Template:New Content?
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:* Toss {{t|Rewrite}} & {{t|To-do}}, agree that {{t|Cleanup}} is good enough on its own. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:22, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
  
Seems most of the screenshots are not being used outside galleries or [[User:Paviinka/List of NH houses|this list]]. We should delete, cause house info is now using Spazzy's models, instead of exterior screenshots. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 03:32, November 9, 2020 (EST)
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: {{Support}} for any that deals with deprecation/deletion/merger. As for {{t|NH Content}}, I would definitely support repurposing it for future game content. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 21:52, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
:I think we should keep and have them in villager galleries. And even if not in galleries, I don't think it hurts to keep them - it's good to have their in-game appearances since the renders will never be exact. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 04:09, November 9, 2020 (EST)
 
::I see your point. The lighting is not perfect in models. I guess exterior screenshots will be in villager galleries then. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 02:53, November 11, 2020 (EST)
 
  
== Regarding the capitalization of item names ==
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:* {{t|Event}}: Agree on deprecate or delete. I think a full notice like that at the top of the page is too excessive. Region exclusivity is sufficiently covered in the lead prose (and perhaps the infobox).
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:* {{t|Expansion}}: Agree on merging.
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:* {{t|Future Page}}: I'm fine with this one. Might not see frequent use, but nice to have for drafts and sandboxes. {{t|TemplateWIP}} is kind of repetitive and can be merged/deprecated/deleted.
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:* {{t|NH Content}}: Deprecate, or turn more generic if possible. IMO don't delete, good to have for history's sake.
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:* {{t|Rewrite}} & {{t|To-do}}: Agree on tossing, merge into {{t|Cleanup}}. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 23:50, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  
Per our [[Nookipedia:Manual of Style#Capitalization|Manual of Style]], all item names, as well as furniture series, sets, and themes, should use title case regardless of how they are capitalized in-game. This was decided by a public poll six years ago, with the option with the most votes becoming the policy. While there was no doubt some discussion and consensus among the staff, I cannot find anything in any talk page regarding it; also, I believe leaving wiki proposals up to a popular vote is not the best method of gathering consensus, as users cannot state ''why'' they wanted something that way. All this to say, I propose we change this policy to having the capitalization of item names match the in-game capitalization. Not only is this true to the developer's intent and the most official name (and it's what we do for all other in-game subjects), but not all items are all lowercase in-game, so having everything be title case creates ambiguity as to what is ''actually'' a proper noun. Additionally, there are some items with quirks, such as the Arc De Triomphe in {{PG|nolink}}, which has "De" capitalized in-game, while our title case policy would have it spelled "Arc ''de'' Triomphe." On the other side, the asian shirt<sup>[sic]</sup> in {{WW|short|nolink}} erroneously does not capitalize "Asian," a mistake that would go unnoticed by readers with our current policy.
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===Standardising color schemes===
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I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.  
  
Since I cannot find any discussion of it, I do not know why the current policy was enacted. Maybe it was to make the names stand out, or maybe it was just because it looked better? I know some guides use title case for item names, but, even if published or approved by Nintendo, they were not written by Nintendo, and the games themselves should be what we base our capitalization on anyway, being primary sources. Obviously this would be a ''huge'' change, with item names being on thousands of pages, but it's better to change it now rather than later when it's even more of a problem, and tradition/longevity shouldn't be the only reason to keep a long-standing thing around. Plus, if we were able to update pages in 2014, I'm sure it can be done now, even if we have a lot more pages. Most instances of item names, such as in templates and on item pages, could likely be replaced by a bot; it's really only item names in the prose of articles that would have to be done manually. Please let me know your thoughts on this below. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:36, November 10, 2020 (EST)
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I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).  
  
:Alright, so the original discussion was had on the Bulletin Board forums in July of 2014 in a thread titled 'Project Furniture Reboot'. Although the forums were officially closed and archived in mid-2018, they are still viewable to anyone with an account there who is able to login to the archive site. I believe it may be possible for current staff members without an account to have Jake manually create an account there for viewing purposes, although I'm not certain of this.
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{| class="styled"
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! Category
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! Description
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! Nookipedia
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| All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.
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|
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*[[Template:Featured Article Notice]]
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*[[Template:Inactive Project]]
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*[[Template:Project Leader]]
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*[[Template:Policy]]
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*[[Template:Proposed Policy]]
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*[[Template:Protected talk page]]
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*[[Template:Vacation]]
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! System
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| System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.
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*[[Template:Edit Notice]]
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*[[Template:Edit Notice API]]
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*[[Template:Edit Notice Cargo Table]]
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*[[Template:High Risk Template]]
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*[[Template:Lua Notice]]
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*[[Template:No Move]]
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*[[Template:Preserve Redirect]]
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|-
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! Warning
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| Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.
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*[[Template:Block]]
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*[[Template:BlockDirector]]
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*[[Template:CommunityBan]]
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*[[MediaWiki:Filehist-help]]
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! Advisory
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| Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using [[Template:Content Notice]]).
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*[[Template:Archive]]
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*[[Template:Cheat]]
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*[[Template:Construction]]
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*[[Template:Deprecated]]
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*[[Template:Future Release]]
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*[[Template:Temporary]]
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| Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.
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*[[Template:Cleanup]]
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*[[Template:Image]]
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*[[Template:Missing Information]]
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*[[Template:Music Wanted]]
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*[[Template:Orphan]]
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*[[Template:Research Needed]]
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*[[Template:Update]]
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*[[Template:Video Wanted]]
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| Editor-focused notices for page change requests.
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*[[Template:Move Request]]
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*[[Template:Merge Request]]
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*[[Template:Split Request]]
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*[[Template:Delete]]
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| This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.
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*[[Template:Game Update]]
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--[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
  
:To summarize the discussion there, the three main participants were {{u|SuperHamster}}, {{u|Mario}}, and I. I started the discussion (the thread was about Project Furniture generally, capitalization was just one of the topics being discussed), and all three of us had slightly differing ideas about what should done, but none of us felt particularly strongly about it (other than that it should be consistent, although I believe I was the only one who favored a capitalization system that did not directly mirror in-game capitalization). Given the limited number of users who had participated in the discussion, and given that it would affect a large amount of pages, we decided to hold a public vote, which resulted in the policy we are using today. You can read a bit about this in the [[Nookipedia talk:Community Fountain/2014#Item capitalization policy|Community Fountain archive from 2014]].
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
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:Great idea! This makes sense and I think will help give our pages/the site a more cohesive look. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:28, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I like the idea as well, per Sunmarsh's remarks! 😄 <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 17:49, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think it looks really nice! I think that it’s cool. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#D7A5E0">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#F3B4EF">Talk</span>]]) [[File: Bob NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 15:25, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
  
:Even after that decision, however, there was still further discussion regarding the policy at [[Nookipedia talk:Policy]] raised by {{u|Mario}} in 2015. I summarized the situation that lead to the decision there again, and my feelings on the issue have not really changed since then. That is, I don't really care what capitalization system we use, but I have spent a lot of time and energy developing consensus for the current policy and then enforcing it, so if someone else wants to propose (and implement) an alternate system, I do not mind, however I will not spend anymore of my time making spelling changes related to AC items. I will enforce whatever policy we arrive at, but I will not actively participate in organizing or making large-scale edits to transition to the new naming policy. I make these remarks not to discourage you or other editors from proposing a new policy or for making the changes yourselves (nor will I actively attempt to undermine such an attempt), but given how much time I have spent manually changing these item names since 2014 my head might explode if I were to do it all over again. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 10:52, November 11, 2020 (EST)
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== Page Creation Request ==
  
:Heh, I knew it was only a matter of time until this came back up (and thanks for the historical summary Sunmarsh). I agree that determining policy via a simple public poll wasn't the best idea, unfortunately it was just the result of a few of us editors not being able to come to consensus between ourselves. There's obvious sense in using in-game capitalization, given we're here to document the games. At the same time I think there are some stylistic benefits to having items title cased. One is that it makes it more clear in-prose whether we're referring to an explicit in-game item vs. a generic term. Another is that it provides a sort of consistency and predictability; there are some perhaps unexpectedly capitalized items (Mama/Papa/Baby bear come to mind), and in the cases of "Arc De Triomphe" or "asian shirt", these actually make me prefer our own capitalization standard as I think it reflects poorly if we were to keep the erroneous capitalizations (and for the sake of recording these odd cases, it could perhaps go in the notes/trivia section of an item's article). I'm neutral on this for now, as I think I'd be fine with either system, but I'll sleep on it. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 01:26, November 12, 2020 (EST)
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I Want To Create A Page Request For Something I Want To Call " Terry Cloth Nightcap Colors By Villager In Animal Crossing New Horizons"[[Special:Contributions/70.70.61.15|70.70.61.15]] 11:12, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'm not sure if an entire page for that is necessary. That information could go in the {{I|terry-cloth nightcap|NH}} item page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 22:31, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
  
::Regarding SuperHamster's point on making it clear whether we're referring to explicit in-game items, the game dialogs get around it by highlighting item names in blue, avoiding the need for capitalization. However, I don't think using colors like this would look good in an encyclopedia, and it would also be a pain to format every time. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 12:28, November 18, 2020 (EST)
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== What pages should I edit? ==
  
== Untitled ==
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Hello guys! I just created an account on this wiki, and I'd really appreciate it if I could get a couple suggestions on what pages I should edit.
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Any Ideas?[[User:TJS113|TJS113]] ([[User talk:TJS113|talk]]) 09:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
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:I would recommend the gallery pages, because they definitely need more images on them. [[User:NookipediaCrossing|NookipediaCrossing]] ([[User talk:NookipediaCrossing|talk]]) 21:41, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
  
Where is the article of the day? I liked that.
 
-Ace
 
  
== Anyone still play da new leaf? ==
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== Keeping track of villagers ==
  
Okay, I am not poor. I just think the Switcheroo is 2 pricey. Anyway, I play the 3ds one and it is fun. Anyone play now? We can exchange tips and also give out dream addresses & trade furniture. Also I would like some towns to visit! Anyway, dis is a page for ALL AGES. Plz no swearing aroundhere :)
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is there a way to see when your villagers came and left my island? i forgot to write it down :( [[User:Charlotte|Charlotte]] ([[User talk:Charlotte|talk]]) 22:29, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
Yay
 
Nookipedia
 
is
 
awesome {{Unsigned|67.44.192.229}}
 
:Hello, you might want to join our [https://discord.gg/5Sfg3CT Discord server] for discussion about the games; this talk page is for discussion about the wiki itself. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 00:28, December 24, 2020 (EST)
 
  
oh okay got it {{Unsigned|67.44.192.229}}
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==Question from {{U|82.69.99.76}}==
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I've been using Nookipedia a lot lately and it's so helpful so I wanted to help edit where I can but I can't seem to be able to. I've tried editing Julian's villager page because for some reason the sentence regarding his music hobby is broken (cut in half and repeats), and I've also noticed that the species for Snooty the anteater is missing in the NL villager tables but not sure how to fix it... Perhaps someone else can? {{Unsigned|82.69.99.76}}
  
== Single NH table for multiple item types ==
 
  
Currently, on pages where we list various types of ''New Horizons'' items together (such as the [[Item:Cherry-Blossom_Petal_(New_Horizons)#Use_in_crafting|list of items]] that can be crafted from cherry-blossom petals), we have separate tables for each type of item (tools, furniture, clothing, and interior). I was thinking this may be a bit long and unwieldy (especially on larger collections of tables like [[DIY recipes/Autumn]]), so I experimented with displaying all types of items together in a single table. You can see it in action at [[Wedding Season]] under the Items section. The table only has columns that are common to all types of items (name, image, buy price, sell price, and availability). It also has a Type column, so that it's clear what's furniture, clothing, or interior.
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The downside of course is that not as much data is displayed (no sizes for furniture, no clothing styles, etc.). But I think most readers will simply be looking for a list of items, and if they want more details they can visit an item's page. This also keeps it simpler for mobile users, who won't have a large overflow of columns exceeding the width of their screen.
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== Australia flag ==
  
Wanting to see what others think and if we should move forward with this across all NH pages. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:37, December 25, 2020 (EST)
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I'm continuing this from a discussion started on [[User talk:PanchamBro#Flag of Australia|PanchamBro's talk page]], as it does concern me that the Australian flag has been changed site-wide to the Aboriginal version without any discussion beforehand. Given that this is a change affecting many pages (the flag appears next to release date and DLC information, for example), I feel that any change should ideally be agreed upon first, possibly even as a Proposal. Reasons cited for the change include avoiding confusion with the New Zealand flag (although that one is rarely used on Nookipedia) and human rights violations, but there's disagreement about whether the Aboriginal flag is even official enough to be used as the Australia flag on Nookipedia. Personally, I'd rather use the official flag unless there's an overwhelming case for changing it. Does anyone else have any thoughts? [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 14:13, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
:Sounds good to me, having a single table for those kinds of pages would reduce clutter and just look better, especially on mobile. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 19:12, December 26, 2020 (EST)
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:*I support reverting to the official national flag. I know the Aboriginal flag is one of several official flags, and I recognize the movement to make it ''the'' national flag. However, my understanding is that the Aboriginal flag represents the Aboriginal people of Australia, and I'm not sure it's apt to generalize the flag to mean all of Australia until Australia formally recognizes it as such. We should default to using what is considered the official national flag. [[Template:UB Australian]] was also changed to use the Aboriginal flag - I think we should revert this, but have the flag available as an option via a parameter. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 15:27, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
::'''Done''' for vast majority of recipe tables (I say majority because I might've missed a few). <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 02:36, December 28, 2020 (EST)
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::I think it would be better if we kept the Aboriginal flag to represent Oceania on this wiki since that's the general market that Nintendo sells at. Leaving only the Australian flag as it, but as a separate file, for users and stuff. Of course, this would also come with discussions on how we handle flags here, because North America doesn't have a unified flag to represent Canada and the United States. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 17:51, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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:*I am also in support with Drago and SH with reverting back to the official flag per their prior points. It might be ''a flag'' of Australia, but in my 20+ years on the internet, I've never seen it used in an official capacity and here, I feel it shouldn't be used as such to lessen confusion and fit more in line with our MoS with other official flags for say the United States, Canada, etc. Unless it was changed on a national/international level in Australia and/or discussed in a proposal with team members, these changes should not have taken place and a more formal process should have been done before mass changes to this flag and another countries were done. <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 02:23, September 15, 2024 (EDT)
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Given the above discussion, I've done the following:
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* Moved the Aboriginal Australia flag from <code>[[:File:Flag of Australia.svg]]</code> to <code>[[:File:Flag of Aboriginal Australia.svg]]</code>
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* <code>[[:File:Flag of Australia.svg]]</code> is now the official national flag of Australia (and used across our articles)
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* {{t|UB Australian}} now displays the offiical national flag again, with an optional <code>aboriginal</code> parameter that changes the userbox colors and displays the Aboriginal Australia flag.
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* Created {{t|UB Aboriginal Australian}} as its own userbox for Aboriginal Australians.
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Thanks, '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 06:06, September 21, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'm late to this discussion, but just thought I'd add my two AUD cents. I think this is a good resolution. I don't want to get too much into it, since it's a complex and nuanced sociopolitcal discussion that isn't relevant here, but as an Australian (who has lived abroad for a long, long time) I've never seen the Australian Aboriginal Flag used to represent the country globally in any official capacity. Having the option of which flag to use in the userbox a good, inclusive idea though. Some users may wish to use it to represent themselves, and should have the option to do so. Meanwhile, many non-Aboriginal Australians support usage of the flag but do ''not'' feel comfortable appropriating it for themselves due its historical and cultural context.
  
== Proposal to remove the Guide namespace ==
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:I do think future changes to any flags should be subject to discussion first, unless a nation very clearly changes their national flag on the global stage in an official capacity. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 06:14, October 12, 2024 (EDT)
  
This proposal is going to be controversial, but I feel that the removal of the Guide namespace may be in the best interests of the wiki. Guides are our weakest area, there doesn't seem to be much desire to improve them, and most of their content can be moved to mainspace pretty easily. Let's remember that Nookipedia is first and foremost an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide, with sites such as IGN, GameFAQs, Polygon and many others offering much better guide content than us.
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== Pages with reference errors ==
  
If this proposal passes, this is what I plan to do with our existing guides:
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The reference errors exist because templates themselves have a <nowiki>{{Note}}</nowiki> without a <nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki>.
*[[Guide:Animal Crossing]], [[Guide:Animal Crossing: Wild World]] and [[Guide:Animal Crossing: City Folk]] don't have anything not already covered elsewhere, and so can be deleted, with the exception of Animal Crossing's controls, which could be moved to [[Animal Crossing|the main article]].
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Would it be better to create a Note section par page with a single <nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki> or to have a <nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki> in the footnote of each Table having a note?
*[[Guide:Bug Catching]] isn't great, despite my improvements, and can probably be deleted.
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[[User:WulFaz|WulFaz]] ([[User talk:WulFaz|talk]]) 09:35, October 4, 2024 (EDT)
*[[Guide:Campsite Minigames]] could be a subpage of [[Campsite (facility)]].
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:Thanks for letting me know. I'm currently fixing those pages by adding <code><nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki></code> to them. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:20, October 4, 2024 (EDT)
*[[Guide:Coffee Preferences]] could be a subpage of [[The Roost Café]].
 
*Some of [[Guide:Easter Eggs, Glitches, and Secrets]] could be transferred to [[Glitch]], although there's some duplication.
 
*The [[Guide:Face Styles|face style guides]] aren't very long, so could be transferred to [[Player]].
 
*[[Guide:Golden Axe trading event]]'s content could be transferred to [[Axe]].
 
*There isn't much useful content on [[Guide:Perfect Town Rating]], but anything that is useful could be transferred to [[Environment rating]].
 
*[[Guide:Saving]] can be deleted in my opinion.
 
*I'm unsure about [[Guide:Unlocks/Upgrades]], but I believe that all its content will be covered elsewhere, so maybe deletion?
 
*[[Guide:Villager Information]] could be a subpage of [[April Fools' Day]], or simply a standalone article.
 
  
Please let me know what you think. Thanks! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 14:27, January 25, 2021 (EST)
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== something about HHP ==
:{{Support}} per the above. I've actually been thinking about this for a while too, so I'm glad you brought it up. Like you pointed out above, a lot of content in the Guide namespace would work just fine in the mainspace and the more guide-like content that wouldn't work in the mainspace isn't that great to begin with. Plus, we have [[strategywiki:|StrategyWiki]] for game guides. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:11, January 25, 2021 (EST)
 
:{{Support}} it seems like it's mostly a legacy namespace from before the merge. These pages don't get much love, and don't really fit into the focus of the wiki these days. I think even if we don't vote to remove the pages, they would be better served as subpages rather than having their own teeny, tiny namespace. Given that we seem to have some sort of affiliation with StrategyWiki (I assume?), perhaps some of this content could be ported over there? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 10:56, January 26, 2021 (EST)
 
::StrategyWiki's guides already look pretty well-established, other than for New Horizons, which is incomplete. But we have very little New Horizons guide content here either, so porting looks off the table. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:53, January 29, 2021 (EST)
 
:{{Neutral}} - I keep going back and forth on this. I agree that given the lack of enthusiasm for the namespace in addition to its sparse content, it doesn't make sense to have a dedicated namespace for guides. That said, prior to NH's release the [[Guide:Face Styles|face style guides]] were one of the top 10 most visited pages on the wiki. I think that this is just an example of the AC lifecycle over the long term: as the current game continues to age, people start to replay the older titles, and so they look for things like the face guides when creating their new towns. Whatever the decision, I think we should still keep redirect pages for searches like "Face guide" or similar so that the content can be found at its new location. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 13:55, January 30, 2021 (EST)
 
  
== Pocket Camp event pages ==
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For villager pages, should there be an image example on how their HHP vacation home will look like? there's already that for HHA, so why not HHP? [[User:RedPikmin95|RedPikmin95]] ([[User talk:RedPikmin95|talk]]) 11:33, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
 
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:The Happy Home Designer (HHD) villager boxes utilize house examples that were officially posted by Nintendo of Japan ([[:Category:Happy Home Designer request screenshots|see here for all images]]). For Happy Home Paradise, Nintendo did post a few examples of house requests ([[:Category:Happy Home Paradise promotional screenshots|some can be found here]]), but it's not comprehensive like they did for HHD. This is why HHP doesn't have an equivalent. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:18, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
As I'm working on developing pages for Pocket Camp items, I'm thinking about our coverage of Pocket Camp events, of which there are over 250. My current plan is to make a new article (with a new PC Event infobox) for each event. Each event page would document the items that can be obtained during the event (and when applicable, the critters or fish that can be caught). Just wanted to note this here in case anyone has any thoughts. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 22:35, February 13, 2021 (EST)
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  • Our villager pages could use house descriptions. At the top of villager house sections, add a description describing common themes and changes to the villager's house throughout the series. Examples available on Eunice and Alfonso.
  • Add "Appearance" sections to our New Horizons wallpaper and floor pages to describe what they look like. Example at Underwater Wall. Screenshots of all walls and floors located here and here, respectively.
  • Restructure and populate our fossil pages with info for Animal Crossing, Wild World, City Folk, and New Leaf using our new fossil info templates. Our New Horizons info is already complete - see Brachiosaurus for an example for how to replicate.
  • Work on our Pocket Camp coverage; visit Project Pocket Camp for more info. Coverage needed includes Gyroidite Scavenger Events, fortune cookie sets, Happy Homeroom puzzles, and memories.
  • Our merchandise coverage needs lots of expansion! Help expand our existing lists and create new ones using the {{MerchSeries}} and {{MerchCell}} templates.
  • Add "Characteristics" sections to our special character pages. See Redd#Characteristics for an example.
  • Write a synopsis for Pocket Camp memories. Be sure to remove the {{Stub}} template from the Synopsis section when completed in order to remove the article from this list.
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Post new topics below! Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

Add internal name and ID regarding item[edit]

There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the tulip table in Animal Crossing has the filename sum_poptable01 and the internal ID 126C. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)

Support Support for the reasons you've given. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)

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The animal emoji redirects[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. HylianAngel (talk) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: 🐂 🐊 🐒 🐕 🐦 🐵 🐶 🐺 🐻 🦍 They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and they actually utilize emoji redirects, so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:

a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the species pages
b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.

What do you think? HylianAngel (talk) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)

Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. Trig - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)

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New Project: Project Languages[edit]

I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates. --Sylveon (Autistic and proud!)🍉🌺 08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
I asked my Chinese friend if this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct, because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. Starry Windy 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Villager Quotes[edit]

Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? Omigpine11 (talk) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11

Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the Photo page. I personally Oppose Oppose adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I Support Support adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the Alfonso quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. HylianAngel (talk) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page is a quote lazy villagers say in New Horizons, just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. HylianAngel (talk) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be Coach, Norma, Patty, Rolf, Claudia, Gaston, Coco, and Mira.
I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. HylianAngel (talk) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

Villager catchphrases[edit]

I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.

If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.

While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:

  • The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
    • Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it (example here). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
  • The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example Sherb, the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."

I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? HylianAngel (talk) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

If this is something you're still interested in, I'd love to work with you on implementation! I agree that catchphrases are one of the few unique personality-defining characteristics of a villager (as most of their dialog is shared), and agree we should have a space to talk about the nuances of their catchphrase in different languages. I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're suggesting regarding implementation, though. I can't tell whether you're suggesting to add catchphrases to {{Foreignname}} or whether you're suggesting a new template & section that also includes the given name. I think that having its own section and template is best, and it would appear very similar to Foreignname, which actually doesn't have any headers at all (the meaning of the columns is inferred from the title of the section). Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 02:30, June 27, 2024 (EDT)

I caught the spirit!![edit]

I caught farley!! ~SylveonSig.png 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)

Trig Jegman's File Template[edit]

As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of my file module for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing Template:File Info.

First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.

Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:

  • Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
  • More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
  • Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
  • Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
  • This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.

I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to every single file on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. I have a few examples of use cases here to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:

  • Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
  • Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
  • User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
  • Author — At the suggestion/request of Shams, useful for creative commons files.
  • License — All those licensing templates are here now
  • Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.

I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! Trig - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Support Support - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
Support Support I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Horizons villager box item capitalization[edit]

PanchamBro's bot fixed the capitalization of New Horizons items on almost all villager pages, but since Jacob/Jakey and Spork/Crackle have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. HylianAngel (talk) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This should be fixed now! -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you! HylianAngel (talk) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

wanna join my club???[edit]

it is called bob fan club - unsigned comment from FroggyPotter (talkcontribs)

Sure. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Help with Cargo Tables[edit]

Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here are a couple of resources:
My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! Bassieeee (talk) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Nookipedia:Project Database has some good information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ideas.[edit]

1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project. 2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent requirement for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
OK, Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Discussing our proposal system[edit]

I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".

What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

  • Comment Comment I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  • I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
  • When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  • Comment Comment Agree with Drago on both points. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Translating the wiki[edit]

I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages? Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself. FUGOSHROOM (talk) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM

Delete single-character species pages[edit]

There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:

~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)

Comment Comment For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the fox, gray langur, peacock, and reindeer pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. Audie and Chief on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for Savannah, flamingo for Flora, etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. HylianAngel (talk) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Support Support I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).
I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being raccoon. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Comment Comment I feel that it would be a good cleanup, but yeah, as stated above, some pages show some details, like Julia resembling a Peacock or Deli looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Oppose Oppose While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future Animal Crossing games comes around. Case in point: New Horizons brought several new characters like C.J., Flick, Daisy Mae and Gullivarrr, which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to New Horizons also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from Erik and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. Starry Windy 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Comment Comment Could we not merge them all into a single page? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages[edit]

Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)

Support Support That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. Blanca and Katie in the older games would be especially difficult. HylianAngel (talk) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Cantonese spelling[edit]

I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.

You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:

Blathers (傅達)
Yale romanization: fuh daaht
Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6

Brewster (老闆)
Yale romanization: lóuh báan
Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2

Isabelle (西施惠)
Yale romanization: sāi sī waih
Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6

Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. Starry Windy 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)

I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use Hanyu Pinyin which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include Gwoyeu Romatzyh which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and one for Cantonese. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of Jyutping as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on Cantonese Pinyin, which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. Starry Windy 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from this site, and I find the spelling for Marina was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. Starry Windy 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

A new Project?[edit]

Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the Spanish and German Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)

I actually just looked at the top post here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I also saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the Projects talk page: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Hi, that was my idea and I think thats super cool! Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Bob NL Villager Icon.png 15:27, August 1, 2024 (EDT)

Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant[edit]

Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The Rubber Plant was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!) MadRayne (talk) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)

It looks like all the items in the House Plant Set had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Userbox question[edit]

Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? Ceariah (talk) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)

You can go to the Userbox page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! Briky If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me! 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)

i got a black rose by accident[edit]

woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.

NL Unintended Black Rose.png

--Erick7477719 (talk) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! DriftveilBread (talk) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)

If I find vandalism, where should I report it?[edit]

Where do I report users? Acnh Player (talk) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard is the best place on-wiki. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

Memes[edit]

Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)

No. Trig Jegman - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on Nookipedia:Discord that is much more suitable for memes. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
I said "Related to" animal crossing. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow Animal Crossing meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "List of Animal Crossing references in other media" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality[edit]

There is consensus to remove this information from the infobox and integrate within the body of the articles. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 15:56, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from Template:Infobox Species and Template:Infobox Personality and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard Template:Infobox.

What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with Template:Infobox.

Any thoughts? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for Template:Infobox Personality, the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for big sister and smug, which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for Template:Infobox Species, but again I could just see this being moved altogether.
With that said, I Support Support their deletion. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Notice Box template cleanup[edit]

As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework Template:Notice Box. I've already come up with a massively simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Templates for discussion[edit]

I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:

  • Template:Event
    • No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in Template:Infobox Event to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.
  • Template:NH Content
    • Was used specifically around the launch of New Horizons and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.

--Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

  • {{Event}} - Agree. On pages where the template might be used, version exclusivity is already mentioned in the first line. Also official WiFi support for the applicable games has ended so very few users will be looking to attend these events anyway. Also agree that it makes sense to highlight this info in the infobox.
  • Agree with {{Expansion}} x {{Missing Information}} merge.
  • I actually like {{Future Page}} because when used properly it helps us see what pages other users are working on in their sandboxes, as it has an associated category. Its counterpart {{TemplateWIP}} is less useful/it can go.
  • Agree that {{NH Content}} should be made generic. Maybe turn it into Template:New Content?
  • Toss {{Rewrite}} & {{To-do}}, agree that {{Cleanup}} is good enough on its own. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 01:22, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support for any that deals with deprecation/deletion/merger. As for {{NH Content}}, I would definitely support repurposing it for future game content. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 21:52, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  • {{Event}}: Agree on deprecate or delete. I think a full notice like that at the top of the page is too excessive. Region exclusivity is sufficiently covered in the lead prose (and perhaps the infobox).
  • {{Expansion}}: Agree on merging.
  • {{Future Page}}: I'm fine with this one. Might not see frequent use, but nice to have for drafts and sandboxes. {{TemplateWIP}} is kind of repetitive and can be merged/deprecated/deleted.
  • {{NH Content}}: Deprecate, or turn more generic if possible. IMO don't delete, good to have for history's sake.
  • {{Rewrite}} & {{To-do}}: Agree on tossing, merge into {{Cleanup}}. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:50, August 29, 2024 (EDT)

Standardising color schemes[edit]

I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.

I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).

Category Description Templates
Nookipedia All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.
System System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.
Warning Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.
Advisory Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using Template:Content Notice).
Editing Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.
Request Editor-focused notices for page change requests.
Game Update This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.

--Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Oppose Oppose Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
Great idea! This makes sense and I think will help give our pages/the site a more cohesive look. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 01:28, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I like the idea as well, per Sunmarsh's remarks! 😄 ~PoizonMushro0mPoizonMush Sig.png 17:49, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I think it looks really nice! I think that it’s cool. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Bob NL Villager Icon.png 15:25, August 1, 2024 (EDT)

Page Creation Request[edit]

I Want To Create A Page Request For Something I Want To Call " Terry Cloth Nightcap Colors By Villager In Animal Crossing New Horizons"70.70.61.15 11:12, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

I'm not sure if an entire page for that is necessary. That information could go in the terry-cloth nightcap item page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 22:31, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

What pages should I edit?[edit]

Hello guys! I just created an account on this wiki, and I'd really appreciate it if I could get a couple suggestions on what pages I should edit. Any Ideas?TJS113 (talk) 09:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

I would recommend the gallery pages, because they definitely need more images on them. NookipediaCrossing (talk) 21:41, July 8, 2024 (EDT)


Keeping track of villagers[edit]

is there a way to see when your villagers came and left my island? i forgot to write it down :( Charlotte (talk) 22:29, September 3, 2024 (EDT)

Question from 82.69.99.76[edit]

I've been using Nookipedia a lot lately and it's so helpful so I wanted to help edit where I can but I can't seem to be able to. I've tried editing Julian's villager page because for some reason the sentence regarding his music hobby is broken (cut in half and repeats), and I've also noticed that the species for Snooty the anteater is missing in the NL villager tables but not sure how to fix it... Perhaps someone else can? - unsigned comment from 82.69.99.76 (talkcontribs)

Australia flag[edit]

I'm continuing this from a discussion started on PanchamBro's talk page, as it does concern me that the Australian flag has been changed site-wide to the Aboriginal version without any discussion beforehand. Given that this is a change affecting many pages (the flag appears next to release date and DLC information, for example), I feel that any change should ideally be agreed upon first, possibly even as a Proposal. Reasons cited for the change include avoiding confusion with the New Zealand flag (although that one is rarely used on Nookipedia) and human rights violations, but there's disagreement about whether the Aboriginal flag is even official enough to be used as the Australia flag on Nookipedia. Personally, I'd rather use the official flag unless there's an overwhelming case for changing it. Does anyone else have any thoughts? Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 14:13, September 14, 2024 (EDT)

  • I support reverting to the official national flag. I know the Aboriginal flag is one of several official flags, and I recognize the movement to make it the national flag. However, my understanding is that the Aboriginal flag represents the Aboriginal people of Australia, and I'm not sure it's apt to generalize the flag to mean all of Australia until Australia formally recognizes it as such. We should default to using what is considered the official national flag. Template:UB Australian was also changed to use the Aboriginal flag - I think we should revert this, but have the flag available as an option via a parameter. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 15:27, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
I think it would be better if we kept the Aboriginal flag to represent Oceania on this wiki since that's the general market that Nintendo sells at. Leaving only the Australian flag as it, but as a separate file, for users and stuff. Of course, this would also come with discussions on how we handle flags here, because North America doesn't have a unified flag to represent Canada and the United States. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 17:51, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
  • I am also in support with Drago and SH with reverting back to the official flag per their prior points. It might be a flag of Australia, but in my 20+ years on the internet, I've never seen it used in an official capacity and here, I feel it shouldn't be used as such to lessen confusion and fit more in line with our MoS with other official flags for say the United States, Canada, etc. Unless it was changed on a national/international level in Australia and/or discussed in a proposal with team members, these changes should not have taken place and a more formal process should have been done before mass changes to this flag and another countries were done. ~PoizonMushro0mPoizonMush Sig.png 02:23, September 15, 2024 (EDT)

Given the above discussion, I've done the following:

Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:06, September 21, 2024 (EDT)

I'm late to this discussion, but just thought I'd add my two AUD cents. I think this is a good resolution. I don't want to get too much into it, since it's a complex and nuanced sociopolitcal discussion that isn't relevant here, but as an Australian (who has lived abroad for a long, long time) I've never seen the Australian Aboriginal Flag used to represent the country globally in any official capacity. Having the option of which flag to use in the userbox a good, inclusive idea though. Some users may wish to use it to represent themselves, and should have the option to do so. Meanwhile, many non-Aboriginal Australians support usage of the flag but do not feel comfortable appropriating it for themselves due its historical and cultural context.
I do think future changes to any flags should be subject to discussion first, unless a nation very clearly changes their national flag on the global stage in an official capacity. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 06:14, October 12, 2024 (EDT)

Pages with reference errors[edit]

The reference errors exist because templates themselves have a {{Note}} without a {{Note list}}. Would it be better to create a Note section par page with a single {{Note list}} or to have a {{Note list}} in the footnote of each Table having a note? WulFaz (talk) 09:35, October 4, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm currently fixing those pages by adding {{Note list}} to them. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:20, October 4, 2024 (EDT)

something about HHP[edit]

For villager pages, should there be an image example on how their HHP vacation home will look like? there's already that for HHA, so why not HHP? RedPikmin95 (talk) 11:33, October 10, 2024 (EDT)

The Happy Home Designer (HHD) villager boxes utilize house examples that were officially posted by Nintendo of Japan (see here for all images). For Happy Home Paradise, Nintendo did post a few examples of house requests (some can be found here), but it's not comprehensive like they did for HHD. This is why HHP doesn't have an equivalent. HylianAngel (talk) 15:18, October 10, 2024 (EDT)