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Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
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Post new topics below! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)
  
== Image category organization ==
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== Add internal name and ID regarding item ==
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{{Archive top|result=There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)}}
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Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the {{I|tulip table|PG}} in {{PG}} has the filename <code>sum_poptable01</code> and the internal ID <code>126C</code>. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)
  
I noticed that there's an incomplete organizational setup involving image categories in the wiki. There seems to be a useful category, Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf pictures (see talk page), that was left unused mostly and I questioned if it's necessary. I do think there can be use for that category, but only if other similar subcategories of images are created (e.g. Animal Crossing: New Leaf flowers), so I think we should create more categories (while also completing this category) and if those subcategories make sense. {{User:Mario/Sig}} 19:13, January 1, 2020 (EST)
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: {{Support}} for the reasons you've given. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
:This discussion could be an extension of [[Nookipedia_talk:Community_Fountain/2019#Creation_of_subcategories_for_.5B.5BCategory:.28game.29_Images.5D.5D|2019#Creation of subcategories for <nowiki>[[Category:(game) Images]]</nowiki>]]. Sorting things out would be great for those categories, but may require tedious work. I'm actually working on scripts that could do exactly that, which have to be sanctioned of course, but there needs to be some agreement on which categories are needed. I'm thinking of the following archetype for New Leaf, which still needs refinement:
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
:* [[:Category:New Leaf images]] (Rationale for such format: (1) Category:Welcome amiibo Images uses the short name, (2) Category:Animal Crossing: New Horizons images uses lowercase <code>images</code>, and (3) "New Leaf" and so on are already unambiguous.)
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:{{Support}} '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:** [[:Category:New Leaf screenshots]] (most screenshots in Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf Images that don't apply in subsequent categories)
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:*** [[:Category:New Leaf pre-release screenshots]] (Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf pre-release images could be moved to this since there are only images of screenshots and nothing else in said category)
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf villager houses]] ([[:File:House of Etoile NLa.jpg]]), could be a subcategory of [[:Category:Villager houses]]
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf letters]] ([[:File:Letter Isabelle NL Town Anniversary.jpg]] and in [[:Category:Letters]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf events]] ([[:File:Toy Day NL wrong present aftermath.jpg]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf pictures]] ([[:File:ResettiPicACNL.png]]; also why are most pictures in Category:Welcome amiibo Images?!
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf furniture]] ([[:File:24 Hour Counter.jpg]]; there doesn't seem to be much since we're using HHD icons)
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf sprites]] ([[:File:30,000 Bells NL Icon.png]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf clothing]]
 
:*** [[:Category:New Leaf bottoms]] ([[:File:Arctic-camo Pants.jpg]] and in [[:Category:Bottoms]])
 
:*** [[:Category:New Leaf tops]] ([[:File:Blue Diamond Shirt.jpg]] and in [[:Category:Tops]])
 
:*** [[:Category:New Leaf dresses]] ([[:File:Pharaoh's Outfit.jpg]] and in [[:Category:Dresses]])
 
:*** [[:Category:New Leaf footwear]] (including socks and shoes)
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf bugs]] ([[:File:New Leaf Museum Butterflies.jpg]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf fish]] ([[:File:NL-fsh-suzuki.png]] and most in [[:Category:Fish Images]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf deep sea creatures]] ([[:File:Lobster NL.png]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf character art]] ([[:File:Angus NL.png]] and [[:File:Katie NLa.png]])
 
:** [[:Category:New Leaf model renders]] ([[:File:Chip NL Model.png]]; should not include those such as [[:File:NL-fsh-suzuki.png]])
 
:Some of these may potentially be overkill (letters? or categories for types of clothing if there aren't much to begin with?) although the archetype shown above could be used as a basis for further discussion on this topic. My rationale for this is to facilitate searching for media, as the current Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf Images is too polluted, and the only way to search for, for instance, a particular villager's picture is to go to their article. I have also noted the omission of <code>Animal Crossing: </code> in naming these categories, which can also be discussed. <del>(Also can we archive discussions above this one to [[Nookipedia talk:Community Fountain/2019]]?)</del> [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 04:46, January 2, 2020 (EST)
 
  
::I'm in agreement with all of these categories including the shortening of the category names to remove the leading 'Animal Crossing'. I would also propose that we put the system into place for all future images uploaded to the site and start retroactively organizing images beginning with {{NL|short|nolink}}. One more note, we actually have lots of (non-HHD icon) images of ACNL furniture, they're just categorized in [[:Category:Game Screenshots]] along with thousands of other images. I believe most of them were uploaded by Mario though, so we could find a good chunk of them by sorting through their contributions. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help with this. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:49, January 2, 2020 (EST)
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== The animal emoji redirects ==
:::I don't know if Administrators and whatnot have tools for mass editing all the pages linked in some page with specific criteria. For instance, all files in [[Picture]] that end with <code>PicACWW.jpg</code> are part of Category:Animal Crossing: Wild World pictures (apparently that category already exists!), and those ending in <code>PicACNL.jpg</code> should be part of Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf pictures (but they aren't). I'm seeing if I can add arbitrary text (e.g., <code><nowiki>[[Category:New Leaf pictures]]\n</nowiki></code>) to all pages that are linked there that meet said criteria, and I will conduct a few tests in [[Pictures]] in the coming days before finally categorizing all of them. (For developers, the libraries I am writing are all in [https://godoc.org/gitlab.com/melancholera/sonchou sonchou] and [https://godoc.org/gitlab.com/melancholera/go-mwclient go-mwclient].)
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{{Archive top|result=There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)}}
:::I think it's best that the categories be first created? {{u|Sunmarsh}}, if you strongly believe that these categories are appropriate, could you create them and populate with some pictures belonging to said categories, as well as move Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf Images, Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf screenshots, and other established categories, at least for New Leaf only, to their shortened forms? Because I'm thinking of waiting for other opinions on such a heavy topic (considering it deals with how we categorize Nookipedia media) and establishing consensus. [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 00:52, January 3, 2020 (EST)
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Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: [[🐂]] [[🐊]] [[🐒]] [[🐕]] [[🐦]] [[🐵]] [[🐶]] [[🐺]] [[🐻]] [[🦍]]
::::If they're overkill, that's fine. Just be bold. :) I did also upload a lot of images from the Prima Guide for New Leaf (RIP Prima), but didn't categorize them because the category, don't think it existed? We should definitely create more categories before more images get uploaded and we get swamped. Heck, I'm working on uploading custom furniture images. There should be a category for images of refurbished furniture (subcategory under furniture), by the way. {{User:Mario/Sig}} 01:01, January 3, 2020 (EST)
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They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_emoji they actually utilize emoji redirects], so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:
  
::::I've made all of the proposed categories for {{NL}} and {{NH}} and tried to tag all the old categories with move requests, but I'm sure I missed some. We have a text-replacement tool, so it would be relatively simple to move all images from one category to another, however to my knowledge, there would be no way to select just a subset of images in a category to recategorize. HotCat which makes the process quicker but still requires per-image category adjustment; this tool is available to everyone. Also I didn't mean to place any blame on you {{u|Mario}} for not categorizing the images- we didn't have a system set up at the time. I appreciate the time taken to upload all the images in the first place! {{)}} I'll move some sample images into the new categories where available and will move existing categories to their new location over the next few days, if there are no objections. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 15:00, January 3, 2020 (EST)
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a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the [[:Category:Species|species]] pages<br>
:::::Just wanted to update here that I had placed at least one image in each of the newly created categories. I will be mass-replacing categories tomorrow (e.g. Category:Animal Crossing: New Leaf Images becomes Category:New Leaf images) and then deleting the old categories. So speak now or forever hold your piece lol. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>'''
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b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.
:::::Another update: All existing ACNL & ACNH categories and their images have been migrated to the new categories. Let me know if I missed any. I tried to fix any templates that would be affected by this (like Infobox Villager, Fish, and Bug), and I think I got them all, but I'm sure there is something I missed. If you know of a template that uses <code>#incat:</code> you might want to check it. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 21:21, January 5, 2020 (EST)
 
:::::?Final? update: Categories for all games (that I could find) have been moved to their new location. I double checked the former categories to make sure no images were left behind. I also checked to make sure that any templates that are using <code>#incat:</code> have been updated appropriately. The only thing left to do is to make sure all uploaded images have been (properly) categorized, and I suppose sometime down the line we might want to consider creating additional category pages for games prior to New Leaf to further categorize those images. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 16:35, January 6, 2020 (EST)
 
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Excellent work in recategorizing and populating, all! Regarding other games than New Leaf, the above archetype can be modified to suit each game, depending on the media available in each of [[:Category:Images by game]]:
 
  
*[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) images]] (should supersede Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) Images)
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What do you think? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) screenshots]] (already exists but some images here could be recategorized e.g., to letters or events)
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) sprites]] ([[:File:10,000 Bells PG Icon.png]] and those that end in <code>PG Icon.png</code> or <code>InventoryACGC.png</code>)
 
***[[:Category:Sprites in Animal Island]] ([[:File:AIGarbageSprite.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) artwork]] (File:AbleSistersArtworkGCN.jpeg, [[:File:ACHouseWallpaper.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) merchandise]] ([[:File:ACGCCalendarFront.png]])
 
** [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) letters]] ([[:File:Letter Mom someone special ACGC.png]] and in [[:Category:Letters]])
 
** [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) events]] ([[:File:PGKatrinaNewYearsDayAdvice.png]], [[:File:FireworksAC.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) bugs]] ([[:File:GCNPillBug.png]] and <code>GCN(BugName).png</code>, although somehow there are also [[:File:RedDragonFlyGCN.png]] and [[:File:Red Dragonfly (Animal Crossing).png]], which follow different naming conventions)
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) fish]] (should supersede [[:Category:Animal Forest+ fish]]) ([[:File:Giant Catfish PG Icon.png]], [[:File:Giant Catfish sprite.png]], and [[:File:AngelfishGCN.png]] all have different naming conventions)
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) character art]] ([[:File:Ace PG.png]] and <code>(Character) PG.png</code>, but also [[:Resetti PG Japan.png]] and <code>(Character) PG Japan.png</code>)
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) model renders]] ([[:File:Ellie PG Model.png]] and <code>(Character) PG model.png</code>)
 
**[[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) villager houses]] (File:House of Tad.jpg; [[:File:House of Blaire PG.png]] and <code>House of (Character) PG.png</code>)
 
  
*[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori images]] (should supersede Category:Doubutsu no Mori Images as per lowercase discussion)
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::Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori character art]] ([[:File:Bangle DnM.png]] and <code>(Character) DnM.png</code>)
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**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori screenshots]] ([[:File:Bell Shrine DnM.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori villager houses]] ([[:File:House of Sven DnM.jpg]] and <code>House of (Character) DnM.png</code>)
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori bugs]] ([[:File:BandedDragonflyGCN.png]]; should supersede Category:Animal Forest bugs, )
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori fish]] ([[:File:BassGCN.png]]; should supersede Category:Animal Forest fish, )
 
  
*[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ images]] (should supersede Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ Images as per lowercase discussion)
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== New Project: Project Languages ==
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ character art]] ([[:File:Alice DnMe+.png]] and <code>(Character) DnMe+.png</code>)
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ screenshots]] ([[:File:DnMe+Benedict.png]], [[:File:DnMe+TitleScreen.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ bugs]] (should supersede Category:Animal Forest e+ bugs)
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ fish]] (should supersede Category:Animal Forest e+ fish)
 
**[[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ villager houses]] ([[:File:House of Chrissy DnMe+.png]] and <code>House of (Character) DnMe+.png</code>)
 
**[[:Category:e-Reader cards]] ([[:File:Animal Forest e+ e-Card 003 (Rod).png]] and <code>Animal Forest e+ e-Card (Number) ((Character)).png</code>; would be a subcategory for [[:Category:Cards]])
 
  
*[[:Category:Wild World images]]
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I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates.
**[[:Category:Wild World character art]] ([[:File:Agent S WW.png]] and <code>(Character) WW.png</code>)
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--[[User:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">Sylveon</span>]] [[User talk:Sylveon|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:magenta">(Autistic and proud!)</span>]]🍉🌺  08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)
**[[:Category:Wild World bugs]] ([[:File:Agrias Butterfly WW Icon.png]])
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:Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
**[[:Category:Wild World fish]] ([[:File:Angelfish WW.png]])
 
**Category:Wild World pictures (already exists)
 
**[[:Category:Wild World sprites]] ([[:File:Dandelion.gif]], [[:File:Golden Shovel.gif]], [[:File:Off Air Test WW JP.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Wild World villager houses]] ([[:File:House of Bill WW.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Wild World artwork]] ([[:File:K.K. Slider WW Wallpaper.jpg]], [[:File:SeasonsWW.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Wild World letters]] ([[:File:Letter Mom great dad WW.gif]], <code>Letter (character) (description) WW.(png|gif)</code>; [[:File:WWHayseedHilda.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Wild World model renders]] ([[:File:Pinky WW Model.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Wild World screenshots]]
 
***[[:Category:Wild World pre-release screenshots]] ([[:File:Wild World Beta 1.jpg]], [[:File:WWBetaPockets1.jpg]], [[:File:Wild World Beta 4.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Wild World events]] ([[:File:Yay Day.jpg]])
 
  
*[[:Category:City Folk images]]
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:I asked my Chinese friend if [[Marina#Names in other languages|this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct]], because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
**[[:Category:City Folk character art]] ([[:File:Amelia CF.png]])
 
**[[:Category:City Folk model renders]] ([[:File:Apollo CF Model.png]])
 
**[[:Category:City Folk screenshots]] ([[:File:BusStop-City.png]], [[:File:CFBudEyelashLady.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:City Folk sprites]] ([[:File:Bell CF Icon L.png]], [[:File:1,000 Bells CF Icon.png]])
 
***[[:Category:City Folk emotion icons]] ([[:File:Agreement CF Icon.png]], [[:File:Outrage CF Icon.png]]; these may be absorbed in sprites though)
 
**[[:Category:City Folk events]] ([[:File:CFTortimerNewYear.jpeg]], [[:File:Fireworks-InTheSky.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:City Folk villager houses]] ([[:File:House of Alfonso CF.jpg]])
 
  
*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer images]] (see discussion in Category talk:Animal Crossing: New Leaf pictures)
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:She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer screenshots]] (anything that does not fall in the subsequent categories e.g., [[:File:Department store 3.PNG]], [[:File:HHDCroqueSomeNumber.jpg]])
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer requests]] ([[:File:Astrid HHD Request.png]], [[:File:AlfonsoHHD.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer character art]] ([[:File:Alfonso HHD.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer character icons]] (already populated)
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer bug sprites]] ([[:File:Darner Dragonfly HHD Icon.png]]; images like these are uncategorized)
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer fish sprites]] ([[:File:Pale Chub HHD Icon.png]]; images like these are uncategorized)
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer furniture icons]] (<code>(Furniture) HHD Icon.png</code>; other images are scattered in other categories)
 
**[[:Category:Happy Home Designer clothing icons]] ([[:File:Alpinist Dress HHD Icon.png]]; so far the only image I've seen)
 
  
*[[:Category:amiibo Festival images]] (should supersede Category:Amiibo Festival Images as per lowercase discussion)
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:I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold"></span>]] 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)
**[[:Category:amiibo Festival character art]] ([[:File:Timmy & Tommy AF.png]], [[:File:Reese AF.png]]; <code>(Character) AF.png</code>)
 
**[[:Category:amiibo Festival character icons]] ([[:File:BroccoloAMFIcon.png]]; <code>(Character)AMFIcon.png</code>). These just need to be decategorized from the parent categories.
 
**[[:Category:amiibo Festival screenshots]] ([[:File:AmiiboFestival-DieRoll.jpg]] and images in [[Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival/Gallery]])
 
  
*Category:Welcome amiibo images (should be a subcategory of [[:Category:New Leaf images]], or should they be separate?)
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== Villager Quotes ==
**[[:Category:Welcome amiibo character icons]] ([[:File:Tipper WA Icon.png]], [[:File:Patty WA Icon.png]])
 
**[[:Category:Welcome amiibo RVs]] ([[:File:RV of Boots.JPG]])
 
**[[:Category:amiibo cards]] ([[:File:005 Kapp'n amiibo card NA.png]])
 
**On whether categories should be separate from the New Leaf branch should be deliberated (see below)
 
  
<del>(The above list is incomplete and anyone is free to expound on them. I will be expounding much more on the following day.)</del> The following are further comments and realizations in writing the above list:
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Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? [[User:Omigpine11|Omigpine11]] ([[User talk:Omigpine11|talk]]) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11
# [[:Category:New Leaf furniture]] may be inconsistent with "Category:Wild World furniture items". Migrating the former to the latter format could be done by hand since it's only nine images, although I'm more inclined towards the former, which may require mass renaming. Rationale is that <code>(Game) furniture</code> can also contain the furniture series available to such a game, whereas <code>(Game) furniture items</code> would sound less "natural". See below point.
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:Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the [[Photo]] page. I personally {{Oppose}} adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I {{Support}} adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the [[Alfonso]] quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
# [[:Category:New Leaf bugs]] is a category containing the bugs available for New Leaf, but can also contain the media for said bugs. Similarly, categories <code>(Game) bugs</code> and <code>(Game) fish</code> could do the same. I was thinking of doing something like [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) bug images]], but that may be too unnecessary.
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::Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page ''is'' a quote lazy villagers say in ''New Horizons'', just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
# I have noted above that [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) fish]] should supersede [[:Category:Animal Forest+ fish]]. The vocabulary used in Nookipedia when referring to the GameCube games does not seem to be uniform: we have three words for the localized release: Animal Forest+ ([[:Category:New characters in Animal Forest +]]), Doubutsu no Mori+ ([[Doubutsu no Mori+]], whose merge with [[Animal Crossing (GCN)]] is pending), and Animal Crossing (GCN) (Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) Images). (I treated the two as one game since [[wikipedia:Animal Crossing (video game)]] states that Animal Crossing is just Doubutsu no Mori+ (どうぶつの森+)) A similar situation is seen in Animal Forest e+ (Category:Animal Forest e+ bugs) and Doubutsu no Mori e+ (Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ Images). The deletion of Template:AF, Template:AF+, and Template:AFe+ should signal that the Animal Forest name should be superseded by Doubutsu no Mori, Animal Crossing (GCN), and Doubutsu no Mori e+.
 
#* <ins>Apparently there are some images that are shared between the GameCube games such as their sprites (should [[:File:Aircheck PG Sprite.png|File:GCNAircheck.png]] belong to PG Sprites or DnM Sprites?). Perhaps [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) sprites]] is the best compromise for sprites that are shared among GameCube games.</ins>
 
# Some files have really weird naming conventions as shown above, with some types of images being more uniform (e.g., <code>House of (Character) (GameShortest).jpg</code> and <code>(Character) (GameShortest).jpg</code> for villager houses and character art), and other types being, well, like [[:File:Giant Catfish PG Icon.png]], [[:File:Giant Catfish PG Field Sprite.png]], and [[:File:Angelfish PG Field Sprite.png]]. Discussion about media nomenclature could be done as another topic here, which should base from precedent and [[Nookipedia:Project Images]], although categorization could be done first and, once images are in their respective categories, they can be renamed using a set of rules.
 
#* <ins>A note could be made here regarding the villager houses media. There are files which are named <code>House of (Character).png</code>, wthout any game information. I moved some of these but further search and replace should be done.</ins>
 
# <ins>The Welcome amiibo update has introduced several new characters, such as [[Buzz]], and together with them their [[:File:BuzzPicACNL.png|villager picture]] and [[:File:Buzz NL.png|character art]]. Should these be placed in the New Leaf categories described earlier, or should they be placed in different Welcome amiibo categories which would be subcategories of their New Leaf counterparts? I'm leaning towards doing the latter, unless if some would voice that they should be absorbed into the New Leaf categories.</ins>
 
Any further comments and suggestions on everything written above? [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 09:54, January 7, 2020 (EST) (edited 07:09, January 11, 2020 (EST))
 
  
: Alright, I'm in support of all of the proposed categories and will start creating them (or you can start if you'd like) over the next few days. I will also rename any existing categories to fit with the established naming system during that time. For point #1, I agree with using <code>(Game) furniture</code> and so I will move images from "Category:Wild World furniture items" (and Category:E+ Items). For #2, I don't think we need a separate category for bug images and we can just let them populate the same page (although that then begs the question of whether we need two categories for characters vs character art). I think that the real question is whether having images in a category affects the function of the #incat: parameter?
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::That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:::Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
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:I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be [[Coach]], [[Norma]], [[Patty]], [[Rolf]], [[Claudia]], [[Gaston]], [[Coco]], and [[Mira]].
  
: For #3 I agree that the Animal Forest categories are outdated and need to be renamed. Also, in accordance with the [[Nookipedia:Manual_of_Style#Spelling_and_romanization|Romaji standard]] established by {{u|Ok}} I believe that the correct spelling is now ''Dōbutsu no Mori''. I think I'm the one who originally proposed the change to Doubutsu no Mori, and I think Nintendo has used both forms (although most recently made use of ''Dōbutsu no Mori'' on their merchandise from Nintendo Store Tokyo). The point of adopting a standard is to use it consistently though, so that's what I will use for the rename of all categories beginning with 'Doubutsu'.
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:I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
  
:Speaking of {{DnM+}}, while I agree with and support the merge with {{PG}} as it is the Japanese version of the game, it features many localization differences that I think are notable enough that the game should get it's own subcategory within [[:Category:Animal Crossing (GCN) images]]. And then I think subcats for DnM+ should also be created for all other AC (GCN) categories as needed. I would be open to hearing other opinions on this though.
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== Villager catchphrases ==
  
:As far as {{WA}} goes, I think that images of {{WA|short|nolink}} exclusive characters, items, locations, etc. should definitely get their own subcategory under New Leaf. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 15:43, January 12, 2020 (EST)
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I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.
::I've created several of the above categories, although with some changes: decided to go with [[:Category:Wild World box art]] instead of "artwork" to disambiguate from artwork as in [[Art]], as well as Category:Happy Home Designer villager houses instead of "requests," as the screenshots are, after all, screenshots of villager houses that clients have requested, and so that it may fit in [[:Category:Villager houses]]. With regards to media affecting #incat, [[mw:Extension:PageInCat]] doesn't say anything about undefined behavior and media in categories so I think this should be fine, although the media in categories does bring a question (see below).
 
::On what you've said regarding the GameCube series, I am not an expert on the series, so I have not created those categories yet. The games' differences are more distinct on some categories e.g., character art than on others e.g., sprites. More discussion should be needed on which media categories should be created for these games
 
::On regards to characters vs character art, I think the different types of media for characters (character art, character icons, and model renders) is sufficient grounds for subcategorization. I don't think this can be said for bugs or fish ''for any specific game'' (although bug sprites e.g., [[:File:Birdwing Butterfly WW Icon.png]] and bug images File:Birdwing butterfly (Wild World).gif in {{WW|short|nolink}} could be grounds to subcategorize between the two, <small>(sidetrack) although by then, wouldn't it be better for these to be accessible inside a common category and rename them to some fixed convention e.g., <code>Birdwing Butterfly WW.gif</code> and <code>Birdwing Butterfly WW icon.png</code> so that the user may be able to get the appropriate media wthout going down several categories?</small>), although that does bring to a more fundamental question: should there be separate categories for media and pages? Because with regards to category unification for page and media categories for bugs and fish, I have laid down two tracks that could be done in their subcategorization:
 
::#Categorize game-specific bugs and game-specific fish to the same category for the pages for these bugs, implying that a media-only subcategory is unnecessary.
 
::#*[[:Category:Insect images]] and [[:Category:Fish images]] would be unnecessary, thus requiring the images there to be recategorized to these game-specific categories of bugs and fish. [[:Category:Wild World bugs]] and related would not be subcategories of [[:Category:Wild World images]] as they do not represent ''only'' images.
 
::#*[[:Category:Event screenshots]] would also be unnecessary, as screenshots here are definitely screenshots of game-specific events which could be categorized to [[:Category:Wild World events]], [[:Category:City Folk events]], and so on. All of which are still not subcategories of their games' respective image categories.
 
::#*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer bug sprites]] and [[:Category:Happy Home Designer fish sprites]] would be placed directly under [[:Category:Happy Home Designer images]] and [[:Category:Game Sprites]].
 
::#Place all media in separate categories, forgoing unification.
 
::#*Keep [[:Category:Insect images]] (move to [[:Category:Bug images]]), [[:Category:Fish images|Category:Fish Images]] (move to [[:Category:Fish images]]), and [[:Category:Event screenshots]], which will collect the subsequent media. These will not be subcategories of [[:Category:Bugs]] and [[:Category:Events]] as they do not necessarily represent classifications of bugs or events unless if a compelling argument is provided that they should be.
 
::#*Create [[:Category:Wild World bug images]], [[:Category:Wild World event screenshots]], and related which would be subcategories of their respective games' image categories e.g., [[:Category:Wild World images]].
 
::#*These subcategories will not be subcategories of [[:Category:Wild World bugs]] and [[:Category:Wild World events]] because they are not classifications of bugs or events that appear in, say, Wild World unless if a compelling argument is provided that they should be.
 
::#*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer bug sprites]] and [[:Category:Happy Home Designer fish sprites]] would be placed under [[:Category:Happy Home Designer images]], [[:Category:Game Sprites]], and [[:Category:Bug images]]/[[:Category:Fish images]].
 
::Option 2 could sound appealing as it gives media a direct link to [[:Category:Images]] (which, I mean, they are), but at the same time Option 1 would allow media to be integrated with the pages they refer to. I would be more inclined to Option 1, but listing the implications of both I have to say that Option 2 sounds much better. '''As this will affect how images will be categorized in the future, consensus on this topic should be established firmly before pursuing categorization of these images.''' {{u|LoneShadowStar}} is the project leader for [[Nookipedia:Project Images]], and should have experience regarding images, although he hasn't been around for some time. In addition, we could look at other wikis at NIWA have been doing: what categorization does Bulbapedia (which keeps its media in a separate repository altogether) or Pikipedia or Mariowiki use? I do not visit their websites, but looking at around five minutes shows that they categorize their media separately from their files (Option 2), although someone who is more experienced there should lay down what method they use. <del>(Appending signature so that discussion on this could continue here) [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 12:01, January 14, 2020 (EST)</del> Respond to this at the very end.
 
::With regards to other categories that are more clear, such as on villager houses, I'm still working on if I could write a script that could run a function to all pages (or files) in a specific category. For instance, those that start with "House of" and end with "NL.png" are definitely members of [[:Category:New Leaf villager houses]]. I'll link the source code here in a few days. [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 12:01, January 14, 2020 (EST)
 
:::[https://gitlab.com/melancholera/sonchou/snippets/1930165 Here's the script] for those concerned before I run it for good. Do feel free to inspect it. Looking at the Recent changes, it looks like it performs its job well. If there are no complaints with me running scripts here and there, I'll go run it in two days from now. [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 06:56, January 15, 2020 (EST)
 
::::Done. I'll see if I could write similar categorizing functions for others such as character art that could fit into [https://godoc.org/gitlab.com/melancholera/sonchou/pkg/mediawiki this PageFunction archetype written], although it'll take some time. For the meantime, Option 1, 2, or are there any suggestions for such categorization? [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 08:30, January 17, 2020 (EST)
 
  
:::::Looking at how other wikis do things... on Inkipedia for example all images of Clothing are in Category:Clothing, and then only clothing pages are listed in Category:Clothing in Splatoon 2. This would be like us putting fish images from all games in Category:Fish and then only listing specific fish pages in Category:New Leaf fish etc. On Bulbapedia (and Inkipedia) they don't have categories of 'images'. They simply tag an image with the game it comes from. So all images relating to ACWW would be tagged 'Wild World'. Screenshots for all games are tagged 'Game screenshots'. Sprites are distinguished on Bulbapedia with their own categories separated by game (e.g. Category:Pokemon Yellow sprites).
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If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.
  
:::::So, basically... I think we already favor a more nuanced categorization system than other wikis, and therefore copying the way other wikis do things would involve making major changes which I don't think are really worth it (or even necessarily more helpful).
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While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:
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*The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
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**Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it ([[fireemblem:Marth#Etymology and other languages|example here]]). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
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*The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example [[Sherb]], the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."
  
:::::After thinking things over for a while, I think I, like you, initially favored option 1, but the more I thought about it I think that it just makes more sense to separate the media because it seems to follow a trend we have already established. Additionally this way you should be able to find a nuanced category for any image you're looking for by searching by game (e.g. City Folk images, New Leaf images etc.). I would want to include some sort of [[wikipedia:hatnote|hatnote]] though at the top of Category:New Leaf bugs for example, that reads something like 'For media related to this category see Category:New Leaf bug images'.[[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 19:17, January 17, 2020 (EST)
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I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)
::::::A hatnote does sound like a good way to link readers in a category containing Pages to that containing Files and vice versa. I have created a few categories here and there that would distinguish them from the Page categories, and will be moving some files in the coming days. (Since no one seems to be objecting on me running scripts this means I should be able to go ahead as soon as I can?) If you could create the other categories you think are necessary, such as on the Gamecube ones, please do. [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 09:21, January 19, 2020 (EST)
 
  
=== [[Template:Game screenshot]] and [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]] ===
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:If this is something you're still interested in, I'd love to work with you on implementation! I agree that catchphrases are one of the few unique personality-defining characteristics of a villager (as most of their dialog is shared), and agree we should have a space to talk about the nuances of their catchphrase in different languages. I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're suggesting regarding implementation, though. I can't tell whether you're suggesting to add catchphrases to {{t|Foreignname}} or whether you're suggesting a new template & section that also includes the given name. I think that having its own section and template is best, and it would appear very similar to Foreignname, which actually doesn't have any headers at all (the meaning of the columns is inferred from the title of the section). [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 02:30, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
In recategorizing files, I have taken advantage of either the image categories by game (e.g., [[:Category:New Leaf images]]) or the special page [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]]. An issue that I have found using this methodology is that there are images that are present in neither because they have been blanketly categorized using [[Template:Game screenshot]] and are in [[:Category:Game Screenshots]] without being in any other category. Removing <code><nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Game Screenshots]]</includeonly></nowiki></code> in the template will flood Uncategorized Files, but this will allow us to see which media have yet to be segregated to their proper categories. In addition, Category:Game Screenshots should just be a parent category for gameplay screenshots per game or for events, but should not contain any media in itself. Are there any objections in removing the includeonly directive? This discussion also includes that for [[:Category:Game Sprites]] and the categories bound by [[:Category:Licensing Templates]]. [[User:Decomposer|{{colorshow|789922|&gt;Decomposer}}]][[File:Emotion Icon - Curiosity (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=User talk:Decomposer]][[File:Emotion Icon - Pride (NL) cropped.png|x20px|link=Special:Contributions/Decomposer]] 01:39, February 3, 2020 (EST)
 
  
:I agree that these meta-categories shouldn't contain media, so I have removed the categorization code from {{t|Game screenshot}} and {{t|Game sprite}}. You should see the images popping up in uncategorized files over the next hour or so. Feel free to remove the categories from other licensing templates as necessary. I don't think any are protected but let me know if you need my help. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 11:40, February 3, 2020 (EST)
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== I caught the spirit!! ==
  
===Request to recategorize due to permission issues===
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I caught farley!! ~[[File:SylveonSig.png|link=User:Sylveon|120px]] 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)
I am unable to recategorize the following images due to permission issues, automatically or manually. Could someone else categorize them?
 
  
*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer bug sprites]]
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==Trig Jegman's File Template==
**[[:File:Ant HHD Icon.png]]
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As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of [[Module:Sandbox/Trig Jegman/File|my file module]] for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing [[Template:File Info]].
**[[:File:Bagworm HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Bee HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Dung Beetle HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Fly HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Hermit Crab HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Mole Cricket HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Pill Bug HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Wharf Roach HHD Icon.png]]
 
*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer fish sprites]]
 
**[[:File:Barbel Steed HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Bitterling HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Black Bass HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Carp HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Coelacanth HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Crucian Carp HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Dab HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Dace HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Football Fish HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Freshwater Goby HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Giant Trevally HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Goldfish HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Horse Mackerel HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Koi HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Oarfish HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Olive Flounder HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Pond Smelt HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Red Snapper HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Ribbon Eel HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sea Bass HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sea Butterfly HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Squid HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Stringfish HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Tuna HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Whale Shark HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Yellow Perch HHD Icon.png]]
 
*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer deep sea creature sprites]]
 
**[[:File:Acorn Barnacle HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Chambered Nautilus HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Clam HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Ear Shell HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Giant Isopod HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Horsehair Crab HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Lobster HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Mantis Shrimp HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Oyster HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Pearl Oyster HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Red King Crab HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Scallop HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sea Anemone HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sea Cucumber HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sea Slug HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sea Star HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Seaweed HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Snow Crab HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Spotted Garden Eel HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sweet Shrimp HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Turban Shell HHD Icon.png]]
 
*[[:Category:Happy Home Designer furniture icons]]
 
**[[:File:Candy Jar HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Candy Machine HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Corkboard HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Homework Set HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Hourglass HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Judge's Bell HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Matryoshka HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Painting Set HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Ponderosa Bonsai HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Rolling Suitcase HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Small Magazine Rack HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Small Space Console HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Smoker HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Sprout Table HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Surveillance Camera HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Top HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Toy Camera HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Trash Can HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Washing Machine HHD Icon.png]]
 
**[[:File:Whiteboard HHD Icon.png]]
 
(For those interested in how these could be recategorized automatically, see [[User:Autotroph]].) Help is appreciated. [[File:Acnl spr four-leafed clover.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 03:33, February 29, 2020 (EST)
 
  
== Enhanced artwork ==
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First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. '''Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.'''
  
Why do we have edited images of villagers as a stand-in over the original art? {{User:Mario/Sig}} 22:14, January 3, 2020 (EST)
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Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:
:Just an FYI for others who may not have seen the original conversation, this is a continuation of the discussion at [[File talk:Gulliver NLa.png]]. And I don't have an answer for your question lol... It seems that these were assets taken from the official animal-crossing website per {{u|vmario97}}. I think it's the lack of anti-aliasing that makes them look pixelated/grainy.
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*Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
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*More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
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*Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
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*Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
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*This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.
  
:The quality of the image is really besides the point and the real question here is how we determine which image to feature in a character's infobox template. I feel like this topic has come up before but I can't find it in the Community Fountain archives. I also checked the Bulletin Board forums archive and couldn't find the discussion there either. Generally I think we would want to use officially sourced images from the most recent main-series game, the exception being when we have a better quality image from a non-main-series game. At this point, with {{NH|short|nolink}} around the corner it's a bit of a moot point. I imagine we'll be changing all the character art for the new game anyway so I think the issue will take care of itself. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 11:12, January 4, 2020 (EST)
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I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to '''every single file''' on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. [[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Sandbox|I have a few examples of use cases here]] to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:
::Some background on this: when new villagers were released for ''Welcome amiibo'' (WA), we couldn't find official artwork of them, until we noticed that new images were appearing for the daily villager birthdays on [https://animal-crossing.com/ animal-crossing.com]. These images aren't edited by us; they're actually just that low-quality coming from Nintendo. In cases like [[Admiral]], where their last appearance was pre-NL, I think it makes perfect sense to use these WA artworks. For villagers that were in the base NL game and have both NL and WA artwork, that's where the debate is - do we want to use the original NL artwork, or use the lower-quality WA artworks which are basically variations of the original NL artworks? IMO we should stick with the original NL artwork, due to the quality issue and since it's all still technically the base game, but as Sunmarsh mentioned, I don't think it's a huge deal since March will bring artwork refreshes anyway. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 16:56, January 4, 2020 (EST)
 
  
== Music category organization ==
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*Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
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*Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
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*User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
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*Author — At the suggestion/request of [[User:SuperHamster|Shams]], useful for creative commons files.
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*License — All those licensing templates are here now
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*Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.
  
After browsing [[:Category:Music]], there is a sizeable amount of music that is unsorted by sub-category, like Hourly Music, Business Themes, and so on. I'm ''very'' new to Nookipedia and wiki editing in general, but I'd love to help with this. Personally, the reason why I started lurking here years ago was to look up the music pages to find things we still don't have, like instrument descriptions and musical keys. Here are a few other ideas that may be handy as well:
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I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
* What would you all think of adding a section to music articles that features a .pdf download (or an external link) to fair-use sheet music available from NinSheetMusic.org? The lovely folks there create the sheets for everyone to use as long as the arranger is given credit for their work.
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== New Horizons villager box item capitalization ==
  
* I found an article mentioning Project Music. If the goals mentioned there are still on a back burner, I'd be happy to start picking away at them.  
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{{U|PanchamBro}}'s bot fixed the capitalization of {{NH|short|nolink}} items on almost all villager pages, but since [[Jacob|Jacob/Jakey]] and [[Spork|Spork/Crackle]] have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)
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:This should be fixed now! -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you! [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)
  
Any thoughts, additions, rejections, or other considerations are greatly appreciated. {{User:HasteWaste/sig}} 02:27, January 10, 2020 (EST)
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==wanna join my club???==
:I think it's all fine. I wonder, do we know what kinds of instruments are used? As the music is in MIDI, you think we can find out what the soundfonts are? Yeah, the project is on a back burner for a while. It'll be appreciated if you contributed! {{User:Mario/Sig}} 15:57, January 11, 2020 (EST)
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it is called bob fan club {{Unsigned|FroggyPotter}}
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:Sure. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
:[[Nookipedia:Project Music]] has been inactive for many years now. If you would like to spearhead the project and become its new leader, we would welcome you to do that and will support you in any way that we can (although I don't know how much music experience anyone has, per se). If you don't want to make that sort of commitment, you're more than welcome to make changes if and when you can. We generally ask that any major changes (moving, deleting, or merging of pages or categories) is discussed on a talk page or here on the Community Fountain first, but you're free to make all the edits you need to add/edit content, or even add new pages if we're missing any.
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==Help with Cargo Tables==
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Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? [[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)
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:Here are a couple of resources:
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:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo (also check out the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Storing_data Storing data] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Querying_data Querying data] subpages)
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:* https://help.fandom.com/wiki/Extension:Cargo
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:* https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Cargo
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:My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! [[User:Bassieeee|Bassieeee]] ([[User talk:Bassieeee|talk]]) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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::Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
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::[[User:TheMajesticPineapple|TheMajesticPineapple]] ([[User talk:TheMajesticPineapple|talk]]) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Project Database]] has some good  information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --[[User:BladeofEvilsBane|BladeofEvilsBane]] ([[User talk:BladeofEvilsBane|talk]]) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)
  
:I like the idea of linking to NinSheetMusic.org, and I wonder if we could partner with them to have them link back to Nookipedia in some way? Either way, I think it's better to ask them before linking to their PDFs directly or uploading them here to make sure it's OK to do. Are you a regular member there/do you know of anyone on that website?
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== Ideas. ==
  
:Also, if you need any sort of templates for the music pages created or edited just let me know as that's something I enjoy doing. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 15:58, January 12, 2020 (EST)
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1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project.
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2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club.
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Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
  
==New userbox friend wiki==
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:Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent ''requirement'' for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
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:The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
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:These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  
Hello, could we create a userbox for the Doom series to add to this list [[Nookipedia:Userboxes#Other_Series]] with the logo of the series and a link to doomwiki https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Entryway which is affiliates at http://niwanetwork.org/ like wikibound, mutecity.org, bulbapedia, wikirby, zelda.gamepedia, mariowiki, metroidwiki, pikminwiki and starfoxwiki.
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::OK, Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#CB6AE7">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Inconsolata;color:#E283ED">Talk</span>]]) [[File:Margie NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Something that would look like this :
 
{{Userbox
 
| id = [[file:Dolly_HHD_Icon.png|45px]]<!--replace by Doom logo-->
 
| id-c = red <!--blood-->
 
| info = This user is a fan of Doom series<!--link to https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Entryway-->
 
| info-c = #c60000
 
| info-fc = black
 
}}
 
<br><br>
 
  
And [[Isabelle]] is big fan of this serie ! [[User:ThomasUnD|ThomasUnD]] ([[User talk:ThomasUnD|talk]]) 07:19, February 24, 2020 (EST)
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== Discussing our proposal system ==
:While that sounds like a good idea, I believe that there isn't much of a demand to do so. You could however create your own userbox template by writing the <code><nowiki>{{Userbox| ...}}</nowiki></code> code you wrote in above in a user subpage (e.g., [[User:ThomasUnD/UB Fan Doom]]), and transclude that in your userboxes by using <code><nowiki>{{:User:ThomasUnD/UB Fan Doom}}</nowiki></code>. In that way, the Template namespace won't be occupied with all sorts of userboxes for any series, and other users who are also fans of Doom can use your userbox. [[File:Acnl spr four-leafed clover.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 08:53, February 26, 2020 (EST)
 
[[Category:Active Discussions]]
 
  
== Category:Insect on Main Page ==
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I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".
  
There is an image called BugButton.png, and it link to Category:Insect, although should link to [[:Category:Bugs]], as that's the actual category name. Can an admin fix that? Thanks [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:17, March 6, 2020 (EST)
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What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)
:Done, thanks for pointing it out! [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 14:27, March 7, 2020 (EST)
 
  
== Signatures ==
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*{{Comment}} I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
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:I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
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:*I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
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::*When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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*{{Comment}} Agree with Drago on both points. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  
How do you make custom sigs? Thanks in Advance! [[User:SplatNerdBekahboo|SplatNerdBekahboo]] ([[User talk:SplatNerdBekahboo|talk]]) 09:43, March 20, 2020 (EDT)
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== Translating the wiki ==
  
Actually, no need! I figured it out. [[User:SplatNerdBekahboo| <span style="color:pink">\/\/00|\/|¥/Woomy</span><span style="color:orange">$₽|_@+|\|€R|]߀|<@|-|ß00/SplatNerdBekahboo</span><span style="color:pink">\/€€|\/|0/Veemo</span>]] ([[User talk:SplatNerdBekahboo|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]]) 10:45, March 27, 2020 (EDT)
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I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages?
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Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself.
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[[User:FUGOSHROOM|FUGOSHROOM]] ([[User talk:FUGOSHROOM|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM
  
== Project Museum ==
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== Delete single-character species pages ==
  
I'm pumping life back into [[Nookipedia:Project Museum|Project Museum]]. As part of this, I'll be writing up new standards for how these pages are laid out. I've written some changes I plan on making, so leave feedback if you're interested at [[Nookipedia_talk:Project_Museum]]. Thanks, <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 02:24, March 29, 2020 (EDT)
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There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:
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{{Columns-list|
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*[[Axolotl]] ([[Dr. Shrunk]])
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*[[Camel]] ([[Saharah]])
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*[[Fox]] ([[Redd]])
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*[[Frill-necked lizard]] ([[Frillard]])
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*[[Fur seal]] ([[Phineas]])
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*[[Giraffe]] ([[Gracie]])
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*[[Gray langur]] ([[Niko]])
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*[[Gyroid (species)]] ([[Lloid]])
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*[[Manatee]] ([[Wardell]])
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*[[Panther]] ([[Katrina]])
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*[[Peacock]] ([[Pavé]])
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*[[Pigeon]] ([[Brewster]])
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*[[Reindeer]] ([[Jingle]])
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*[[Skunk]] ([[Kicks]])
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*[[Sloth]] ([[Leif]])
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*[[Tapir]] ([[Luna]])
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*[[Turkey]] ([[Franklin]])
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*[[Walrus]] ([[Wendell]])
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}}
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'''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the [[fox]], [[gray langur]], [[peacock]], and [[reindeer]] pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. [[Audie]] and [[Chief]] on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for [[Savannah]], flamingo for [[Flora]], etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Support}} I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).<br>I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being [[raccoon]]. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} I feel that it ''would'' be a good cleanup, but yeah,  as stated above, some pages show some details, like [[Julia]] resembling a [[Peacock]] or [[Deli]] looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Oppose}} While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future ''Animal Crossing'' games comes around. Case in point: ''New Horizons'' brought several new characters like [[C.J.]], [[Flick]], [[Daisy Mae]] and [[Gullivarrr]], which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to ''New Horizons'' also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from [[Erik]] and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold"></span>]] 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:{{Comment}} Could we not merge them all into a single page? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)
  
== Furniture based pages ==
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== Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages ==
  
Should we make pages about furniture, hats, and other minor stuff? I feel like this is needed. [[User:SplatNerdBekahboo| <span style="color:orange">SplatNerdBekahboo</span>]] ([[User talk:SplatNerdBekahboo|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]]) 13:29, April 3, 2020 (EDT)
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Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)
:Hi there - we [[:Category:Furniture|already]] [[:Category:Clothing|cover]] these areas! However, some of the pages are short on info and images. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]   [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 13:38, April 3, 2020 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. [[Blanca]] and [[Katie]] in the older games would be especially difficult. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::Re. NH item coverage, I'm prepping a massive import of the community item spreadsheet as it nears completion. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:46, April 3, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:::I meant for specific pieces of clothing and furniture and how to get them. [[User:SplatNerdBekahboo| <span style="color:orange">SplatNerdBekahboo</span>]] ([[User talk:SplatNerdBekahboo|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]]) 11:14, April 7, 2020 (EDT)
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== Cantonese spelling ==
  
== Music ==
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I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.
  
We don't have a central music page, so I'll post this here. Are the names of shop themes (such as [[Tom Nook's Chain Jingles]] and [[Auction House Harmony]]) official or is it just another thing that has been made up by editors? [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 13:36, April 6, 2020 (EDT)
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You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:
  
:I don’t think they are, but that is just an educated guess. [[User:FLAME1232|<span style="color:silver">F</span><span style="color:black">L</span><span style="color:silver">A</span><span style="color:black">M</span><span style="color:silver">E</span><span style="color:black"></span><span style="color:silver">1</span><span style="color:black">2</span><span style="color:silver">3</span><span style="color:black">2</span>]][[User talk:FLAME1232|<span style="color:silver">(Talk)</span>]]</span> 13:53, April 6, 2020 (EDT)
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'''Blathers (傅達)'''<br>
::Just made up as far as I can tell. The tracklist for the [https://vgmdb.net/album/5720 Gekijouban Doubutsu no Mori OST] simply calls it "Tanuki's Shop" (Tom Nook's Shop) and [https://www.discogs.com/Kazumi-Totaka-Manaka-Tominaga-Shiho-Fujii-Animal-Crossing-Your-Favourite-Songs-Original-Soundtrack/release/4846383 tracklist for Your Favourite Songs] calls the Auction House theme "The Auction House". --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] <span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span> <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 14:29, April 6, 2020 (EDT)
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Yale romanization: fuh daaht<br>
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Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6
  
== Rename categories for Japan-only titles ==
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'''Brewster (老闆)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: lóuh báan<br>
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Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2
  
I notice that we have some categories that still use "Animal Forest" in the name instead of "Doubutsu no Mori". I propose that we update/move these categories as needed in order to keep things consistent:
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'''Isabelle (西施惠)'''<br>
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Yale romanization: sāi sī waih<br>
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Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6
  
* Animal Forest bugs '''→''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori bugs|Doubutsu no Mori bugs]]
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Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)
* Animal Forest fish '''''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori fish|Doubutsu no Mori fish]]
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:I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
* Animal Forest characters '''''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori characters|Doubutsu no Mori characters]]
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::Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin Hanyu Pinyin] which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwoyeu_Romatzyh Gwoyeu Romatzyh] which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
* Animal Forest e+ bugs '''→''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ bugs|Doubutsu no Mori e+ bugs]]
 
* Animal Forest e+ fish '''→''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ fish|Doubutsu no Mori e+ fish]]
 
* Animal Forest e+ characters '''→''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori e+ characters|Doubutsu no Mori e+ characters]]
 
* Animal Crossing: The Movie characters '''→''' [[:Category:Doubutsu no Mori (film) characters|Doubutsu no Mori (film) characters]]
 
  
Additionally, we have the category [[:Category:Animal Forest+ fish|Animal Forest+ fish]] which seems redundant. It's identical to [[:Category:Animal Crossing fish|Animal Crossing fish]] except for the [[Herabuna]]/[[Brook Trout]]. Personally I think it's best to lump Herabuna into this one, as we have pages already explaining the discrepancy, and the wiki has already agreed that AC/DnM+ are two regional variations of the same game. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] <span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span> <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 09:32, April 9, 2020 (EDT)
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::Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_romanization_of_Cantonese one for Cantonese]. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyutping Jyutping] as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_Pinyin Cantonese Pinyin], which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold">★</span>]] 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:::It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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::::Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from [https://hongkongvision.com/tool/cc_py_conv_en this site], and I find the spelling for [[Marina]] was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. <span style="background:linear-gradient(0deg,blue,cyan); -webkit-background-clip:text !important; -webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">'''''[[User:Starry Windy|Starry Windy]]'''''</span>[[User talk:Starry Windy|<span style="color:gold"></span>]] 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
:Nearly all the changes have been made/are in progress. I didn't make the Animal Forest+ fish change because I'm not sure the best way to deal with it. I agree that DnM+ doesn't need to appear in the appearances field for any fish... except for the exceptions (e.g. Herabuna/Brook Trout). And right now the way that the appearances field works, is that it relies on category information. So, if we removed the category information then we would need to hard code the exceptions into the template. This is easy to do, but I wanted to get some feedback/consensus on this before I did that. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 16:47, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
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== A new Project? ==
  
== Grammatical and capitalization errors ==
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Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the [https://animalcrossing.wikidex.net/wiki/Portada Spanish] and [https://animalcrossingwiki.de/ German] Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)
  
Millions upon millions of '''grammatical''' and '''capitalization errors''' have been detected on this wiki, please help us to fix them. It is estimated that every page on the wiki has at least three capitalization errors.—[[User:Grammar Fixer|Grammar Fixer]] ([[User talk:Grammar Fixer|talk]]) 20:01, April 12, 2020 (EDT)
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I actually just looked at the [[Nookipedia_talk:The_Roost#Non-English_names_as_redirects.2Fdisambiguation_pages|top post]] here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I ''also'' saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the [[Nookipedia_talk:Projects|Projects talk page]]: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]'''''[[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px]] 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)
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:Hi, that was my idea and I think thats super cool! Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#D7A5E0">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#F3B4EF">Talk</span>]]) [[File: Bob NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 15:27, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
  
:I will try to fix every error I see. I thank you for your support. [[User:SplatNerdBekahboo| <span style="color:orange">SplatNerdBekahboo</span>]] ([[User talk:SplatNerdBekahboo|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]]) 13:29, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
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==Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant==
  
:We here at Nookipedia take this issue very seriously, and we thank you for bringing it to our attention. Based on your initial estimation- 'millions upon millions' of errors, we estimate this corrective process will take around 50 years to complete. We urge those users who are particularly sensitive to grammatical inaccuracies to avoid visiting the wiki during this transition period. Thank you for your understanding. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 17:00, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
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Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The [[Item:Rubber_tree_(Wild_World)|Rubber Plant]] was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!)
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[[User:MadRayne|MadRayne]] ([[User talk:MadRayne|talk]]) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)
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:It looks like all the items in the [[House Plant Set]] had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)
  
== Personality Names ==
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== Userbox question ==
  
Given that the official AC:NH guide is out some places in the world and calls [[Normal]] and [[Sisterly]] villagers Sweet and Big Sister, respectively, I would propose that the wiki switches to those names. I'm fairly certain this is the first time either name has been officially named in English. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 13:11, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
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Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? [[User:Ceariah|Ceariah]] ([[User talk:Ceariah|talk]]) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)
:This has been the subject of much discussion recently. Various users did some digging, and we found that there have actually been quite a few different names used for these personalities over the years (and completely different English names are used in the data for ''New Horizons'') so it's a bit of a tricky one. The general consensus is that we don't want to deviate too much from what other wikis and the community at large use, so that's something to take into consideration as well.
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:You can go to the [[Userbox]] page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! '''''[[User:Briky|Briky]]''''' [[File:Emotion Greetings NH Icon.png|30px|If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me!]] 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)
:Since it keeps coming up, it's probably a debate worth having here, I know that some are keen to use "Sweet" over "Normal" for example. I've contacted FuturePress to see what the source for the names they use in the guide are, and I will update here once I have a response from them. That'll probably be the time to bring the discussion forward, since hopefully we'll have something more concrete either way to use as a basis for any possible changes. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] <span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span> <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 06:04, April 17, 2020 (EDT)
 
::I just found a copy of the English book and saw that Normal villagers are still called Normal. Perhaps it varies from region to region, but at the moment, it looks like Normal is still "official" to some extent (as official as one can consider a game guide). As much as I think Normal is not a good personality descriptor and I think Sweet would be much better, I think we should continue using Normal and Sisterly since those are what's sticking to the community. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 01:47, April 21, 2020 (EDT)
 
::I spoke too soon - another user pointed out to me that the guidebook uses ''both''. The list of personalities on pg 74 and the list of posters on pg 425 use Sweet, but the list of villagers uses Normal. Classic guidebooks. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 04:08, April 21, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::What name does it use in the game files? I don’t have the resources that I would need to check, so I figured I’d ask. Unless anybody has a direct line to someone on the Animal Crossing series design team, that should probably be the last word. [[User:FLAME1232|<span style="color:silver">F</span><span style="color:black">L</span><span style="color:silver">A</span><span style="color:black">M</span><span style="color:silver">E</span><span style="color:black"></span><span style="color:silver">1</span><span style="color:black">2</span><span style="color:silver">3</span><span style="color:black">2</span>]][[User talk:FLAME1232|<span style="color:silver">(Talk)</span>]]</span> 09:16, April 21, 2020 (EDT)
 
::::The names mostly used in the games files are the Japanese ones. There are some files that mention in English "Normal" (Normal and Lazy), "Active" (Peppy and Jock), and "Pride[ful]" (Snooty and Cranky) for both genders, and "Snobby" for [[Smug]] and "Big Sis" for [[Sisterly]]. I reached out on Twitter to someone who worked on the localisation, and apparently they just use the abbreviations of the Japanese names amongst themselves. So it seems there's no "true" official English names for any of them. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 09:42, April 21, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:::::Well, that’s the best I currently have. [[User:FLAME1232|<span style="color:silver">F</span><span style="color:black">L</span><span style="color:silver">A</span><span style="color:black">M</span><span style="color:silver">E</span><span style="color:black"></span><span style="color:silver">1</span><span style="color:black">2</span><span style="color:silver">3</span><span style="color:black">2</span>]][[User talk:FLAME1232|<span style="color:silver">(Talk)</span>]]</span> 11:17, April 21, 2020 (EDT)
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== i got a black rose by accident ==
  
== Subpage naming convention ==
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woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.
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[[File:NL Unintended Black Rose.png|thumb]]
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[[Category:Active discussions]] --[[User:Erick7477719|Erick7477719]] ([[User talk:Erick7477719|talk]]) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)
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:There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! [[User:DriftveilBread|DriftveilBread]] ([[User talk:DriftveilBread|talk]]) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
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::Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) [[File:Animal Crossing Leaf.png|20px]] 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)
  
We currently have two ways to organize subpages:
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==If I find vandalism, where should I report it?==  
* GAME/SUBJECT (e.g. [[Animal Crossing: New Horizons/Characters]])
 
* SUBJECT/GAME (e.g. [[Fish/New Horizons]], [[Furniture/New Horizons]])
 
I figure we should pick one and stick with it. I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I'm leaning towards SUBJECT/GAME, since it aligns more with how people search for and think about content (<subject> in <game>). <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 21:33, April 18, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
: If I had to choose one, I would say I'm also in favor of Subject/Game, because it decentralizes the information/creates separate hubs of knowledge and encourages users to visit different parts of the wiki. That said, I'm not sure I understand how reversing the subpages on game pages would help us. For example, we would then have Gallery/New Horizons, which at the top of the page would link back to 'Gallery', a non-existent page, rather than linking back to the ACNH page like it does at [[Animal Crossing: New Horizons/Gallery]]. 'Characters' is also a redirect page going to 'Player'. I think that if we wanted to create new pages at [[Gallery]] and [[Characters]], it's part of a larger discussion about subpages generally, and also about how we want to organize or prioritize different types of content (e.g. lists and images). Maybe I'm not understanding your point? [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 22:13, April 18, 2020 (EDT)
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Where do I report users? [[User:Acnh Player|Acnh Player]] ([[User talk:Acnh Player|talk]]) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)
::Ah yeah, I'd want to leave galleries as-is (an exception to the rule). I could see us create a [[Characters]] page though, which would have sections on the Player, Villagers, and Special Characters, and then link to the respective articles. That being said, maybe we don't need to have a standard and can keep the different formats. But if I come across Fish/New Horizons, I would expect characters to be available at Characters/New Horizons as well. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 22:50, April 18, 2020 (EDT)
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:[[Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard]] is the best place on-wiki. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
:While SUBJECT/GAME is more logical, I would have to agree with the issue of a "Characters" page. Right now we do have [[List of villagers]] which we could merge in [[Villagers]] and create subpages such as [[Villagers/New Leaf]] which we could merge data from [[Animal Crossing: New Leaf/Characters]] and [[List of villager birthdays in Animal Crossing: New Leaf]]. [[File:Acnl spr four-leafed clover.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 03:17, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:I feel like this issue can't be easily standardized. Personally I'd say the logical flow is more of "Nice game! → And it has many characters!" and not "Hm, let me look up some characters → Oh, they're in this game". I suppose the latter could work if the person is familiar with the series but if they're a new comer, they'd look for the game first...? When it comes to collectibles in games, you're already familiar with the game, so you'd look up the collectible and then choose the game you're looking for, imho. Like, Stars in Mario. You know Mario, you know he collects Stars, you'd then look into Power Stars in Mario Galaxy...<br>
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== Memes ==
:There are also subpages for Update History ([[Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp/Update History]], [[Animal Crossing: New Horizons/Update History]]) and I don't know if it's worth having Update History main page. I could imagine the contents, though. (Gifts received in the previous games, WA, and that PC and NH are very update driven games)<br>
 
:That being said, we should definitely have [[Characters]] page, because finding the List of Villagers was a tough task for me when I was stealing data from here, haha. Characters is a simple term everyone searches for at some point. And I don't get why Character redirects to Player. It might be Playable Character but not the only character. I agree with Decomposer to do some kind of merge with the villager birthdays and character list, because the character lists are having birthdays (some of them, anyway), and I don't think we need to have it there so many times.  You could easily sort them by birthday in the table. [[User:Paviinka|Paviinka]] ([[User talk:Paviinka|talk]]) 03:54, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
::Ah, great point re. Update History, that's something that I agree makes sense as a subpage of the game. So what I'm getting out of this is we can't have a hard and fast rule - but at least, reworking our villagers/characters pages so that they're in the SUBJECT/GAME format makes sense. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 05:51, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Personally I've always seen it more as PRIMARY SUBJECT/SUPPLEMENTAL INFO. It makes sense for galleries and changelogs to be subpages of the game articles, because they're supplemental to the main article. Whereas a hypothetical Characters article would be better off having subpages for each game, since they'd be an offshoot of the main Characters article.
 
:::Regarding birthdays, I've actually wanted to include them in the list for a long time now (as well as internal IDs) but it's a matter of having space for it. Perhaps we could look into using tabs to create a split view between appearances and other info, but any such merge is probably best kept as a separate discussion. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 06:46, April 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
::::PRIMARY SUBJECT/SUPPLEMENTAL INFO is great way of putting it. I suppose that's how we can describe it in our MoS. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 01:49, April 21, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Villager lists on species pages ==
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Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)
  
It's been bothering me that whenever I browse the site on my phone, I always have to vertically scroll the villager lists on species pages. If you use a CSS Grid, you can change the number of cells displayed per row dynamically, according to the screen width.
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:No. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman]] - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on [[Nookipedia:Discord]] that is much more suitable for memes. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::I said "'''''Related to'''''" animal crossing. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:::They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:::If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow ''Animal Crossing'' meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "[[List of Animal Crossing references in other media]]" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. [[File:Snapping Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:Soft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png|25px]] 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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::::How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
  
Here's what the [[Bear]] page would look like using that CSS functionality
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== Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality ==
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{{Archive top|result=There is consensus to remove this information from the infobox and integrate within the body of the articles. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 15:56, May 26, 2024 (EDT)}}
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I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from [[Template:Infobox Species]] and [[Template:Infobox Personality]] and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard [[Template:Infobox]].
  
<div style="display: grid; grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fill, calc(150px + 0.6em + 2px)); grid-gap: 0.5em">
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What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with [[Template:Infobox]].
{{Villager|Name=Beardo|Image=Beardo NL.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Smug|Birthday=September 27|debut=ACNL}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Charlise|Islander=Yes|Image=Charlise NH.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Personality2=Sisterly|Birthday=April 17|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Chow|Image=Chow NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=July 22|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Curt|Image=Curt NH.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=July 1|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Dozer|Image=Dozer PG.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Lazy|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Grizzly|Image=Grizzly NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=July 31|debut=DnM}} {{Villager|Name=Groucho|Image=Groucho NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=October 23|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Ike|Image=Ike NL.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=May 16|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Klaus|Image=Klaus NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Smug|Birthday=March 31|debut=ACNL}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Megan|Image=Megan_Render.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Normal|Birthday=March 13|debut=ACNH}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Nate|Image=Nate NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Lazy|Birthday=August 16|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Paula|Image=Paula NLa.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Personality2=Sisterly|Birthday=March 22|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Pinky|Image=Pinky NLa.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Birthday=September 9|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Teddy|Image=Teddy NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Jock|Birthday=September 26|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Tutu|Image=Tutu NLa.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Birthday=September 15|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Ursala|Image=Ursala NL.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Snooty|Personality2=Sisterly|Birthday=January 16|debut=DnM}}
 
</div>
 
  
As you can see, it doesn't actually require any changes to the existing templates (although I would recommend making the container <code>div</code> a template itself). However, if you were to change {{t|Villager}}, you could have the cell width defined by the grid rather than the individual cells, which would remove the need for such a complicated cell width like <code>calc(150px + 0.6em + 2px)</code>. It would also allow more freedom in exactly how you want to display it (e.g. using <code>auto-fit</code> instead of <code>auto-fill</code>, [https://css-tricks.com/auto-sizing-columns-css-grid-auto-fill-vs-auto-fit/ if that would be preferred]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:16, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
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Any thoughts? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
:This is great, thanks Snorlax. It's been implemented across all species pages. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 06:22, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
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:I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
::Now that the width/height has been removed from {{t|Villager}}, I would recommend something more like this now, to avoid empty space:
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::Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for [[Template:Infobox Personality]], the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for [[big sister]] and [[smug]], which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for [[Template:Infobox Species]], but again I could just see this being moved altogether.
<pre><div style="display: grid; grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fill, minmax(150px, 1fr)); grid-gap: 0.5em"></div></pre>
 
::Here's the difference:
 
<div style="display: grid; grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fill, minmax(150px, 1fr)); grid-gap: 0.5em">
 
{{Villager|Name=Beardo|Image=Beardo NL.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Smug|Birthday=September 27|debut=ACNL}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Charlise|Islander=Yes|Image=Charlise NH.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Personality2=Sisterly|Birthday=April 17|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Chow|Image=Chow NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=July 22|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Curt|Image=Curt NH.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=July 1|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Dozer|Image=Dozer PG.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Lazy|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Grizzly|Image=Grizzly NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=July 31|debut=DnM}} {{Villager|Name=Groucho|Image=Groucho NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=October 23|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Ike|Image=Ike NL.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Cranky|Birthday=May 16|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Klaus|Image=Klaus NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Smug|Birthday=March 31|debut=ACNL}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Megan|Image=Megan_Render.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Normal|Birthday=March 13|debut=ACNH}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Nate|Image=Nate NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Lazy|Birthday=August 16|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Paula|Image=Paula NLa.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Personality2=Sisterly|Birthday=March 22|debut=DnMe+}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Pinky|Image=Pinky NLa.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Birthday=September 9|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Teddy|Image=Teddy NLa.png|Gender=Male|Personality=Jock|Birthday=September 26|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Tutu|Image=Tutu NLa.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Peppy|Birthday=September 15|debut=DnM}}
 
{{Villager|Name=Ursala|Image=Ursala NL.png|Gender=Female|Personality=Snooty|Personality2=Sisterly|Birthday=January 16|debut=DnM}}
 
</div>
 
::You can tweak the minimum width to be greater than 150px if you think that's too narrow, but the idea is that the cells all expand to fill as much space on the right-hand side as possible (as long as there isn't enough room to insert an additional column). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:11, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Just wanted to pop in to say thanks for your help with this, SnorlaxMonster! Mobile usability is becoming a bigger focus for us recently, and it's become a priority to go back and update a lot of the older templates to comply. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 22:47, May 13, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Personality Subtypes and Hobbies ==
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::With that said, I {{Support}} their deletion. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCrossing/comments/gh6bu1/differences_in_villager_personality/
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:{{Support}} I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Oppose}} I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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::The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
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{{Archive bottom}}
  
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b2rrEIeNZKnQrvoyD4JtkKSNJs2VAHobCBGKSnO2A_o/mobilebasic
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== Notice Box template cleanup ==
  
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HEyNSrgzih38rVA5GdI6el2mmaIxi6oFVVDQKqbn03E/
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As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework [[Template:Notice Box]]. I've already come up with a ''massively'' simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
  
Recent datamining has found that Villagers in NH come in two "subtypes": A and B. Villagers who have different subtypes of the same personality have slightly different dialogue and voices.  
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===Templates for discussion===
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I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:
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* [[Template:Event]]
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**No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in [[Template:Infobox Event]] to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.
  
Wondering if it might be worthwhile to add some of this information to the wiki so it's easier for people to find?
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* [[Template:Expansion]]
{{Unsigned|24.88.81.22}}
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**Has a lot of overlap with [[Template:Missing Information]], and incomplete sections should be using [[Template:Stub]]. We could merge this with Missing Information and alter it to not only refer to empty sections (which should be removed from articles anyway IMO).
  
== Proposal for new Item: namespace ==
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* [[Template:Future Page]]
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* [[Template:TemplateWIP]]
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**Neither of these are used very much, and are basically the same thing as [[Template:Construction]]. These could be deprecated or deleted.
  
We're preparing to create individual pages for every NH item (furniture, clothing, etc.), and eventually do the same for prior games. This will let us provide in-depth details on each item, and to leverage our newly-installed [[:mw:Extension:Cargo|Cargo extension]].
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* [[Template:NH Content]]
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**Was used specifically around the launch of {{NH|short}} and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.
  
[[User:Sunmarsh|Sunmarsh]] and I have been discussing the best way to organize these items, and we think it's worth creating a separate Item: namespace (<code>Item:Furniture Name (Game)</code>). Since this project will result in creating thousands of new pages, a separate namespace will let us easily distinguish these pages from other articles, especially for readers who are trying to search. For example, if you're searching for the villager named [[Rocket]], you'll want to be able to easily pick her out from the Rocket and Rocket Lamp items in NH, and whatever rocket items exist in previous games. Same goes for Boots (both a villager and shoe), or entities like [[Lighthouse]] where we have an article on it as a landmark, but it appears in NL as a PWP and NH as an item. A separate namespace may also help limit naming collisions that could otherwise happen in the mainspace between items and non-items.
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* [[Template:Rewrite]]
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* [[Template:To-do]]
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**Both of these overlap with [[Template:Cleanup]], though the latter covers more use cases, and is clearer than the to-do one. These could all be merged IMO.
  
Other options if we were to keep items in the mainspace:
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--[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
* <code>Furniture Name (Game)</code>
 
* <code>Furniture/Game/Furniture Name</code> (my issue with this is that we are getting too-deep into subpages; is inconsistent with how other things are organized; and limits discoverability)
 
  
If you have any thoughts, please post below! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 05:11, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
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:* {{t|Event}} - Agree. On pages where the template might be used, version exclusivity is already mentioned in the first line. Also official WiFi support for the applicable games has ended so very few users will be looking to attend these events anyway. Also agree that it makes sense to highlight this info in the infobox.
:{{Support}} I support creating a new item namespace. —<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 05:51, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
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:* Agree with {{t|Expansion}} x {{t|Missing Information}} merge.
:{{Support}}. [[User:vmario97|<span style="color:green">v</span><span style="color:red">mario</span><span style="color:purple">97</span>]] <span style="color:blue">[[User talk:Vmario97|(talk)]]</span> 07:43, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
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:* I actually like {{t|Future Page}} because when used properly it helps us see what pages other users are working on in their sandboxes, as it has an associated category. Its counterpart {{t|TemplateWIP}} is less useful/it can go.
:{{Support}}, as this resolves collisions that may happen if they are to be kept in the Main namespace. Suggesting, however, to encode the game as a subpage instead of in parentheses (<code>Item:Tassled Loafers/New Horizons</code> instead of <code>Item:Tassled Loafers (New Horizons)</code>) because there are furniture items that have parentheses (<code>File Cabinet (L)</code> in Welcome amiibo or <code>LCD T.V. (20 in.)</code> in New Horizons). [[File:Acnl spr four-leafed clover.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 08:29, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
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:* Agree that {{t|NH Content}} should be made generic. Maybe turn it into Template:New Content?
::Hmm, that's a good point...and by doing that we could also maybe have the parent page (i.e. <code>Item:Tassled Loafers</code>) be a directory of sorts that provides an overview of the item and links to all its appearances. Where this gets messy, though, is when item names change between game :/ Not sure how to deal with that, if at all. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:41, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
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:* Toss {{t|Rewrite}} & {{t|To-do}}, agree that {{t|Cleanup}} is good enough on its own. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:22, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
::P.S. For the record I think it's fine to have back-to-back parentheses (e.g. <code>LCD T.V. (20 in.) (New Horizons)</code>), especially with how few items there are like this. I'm more interested in the subpages because of the directory idea I described. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:45, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::Interesting comment: an example of the name differing between games is the [[Calm Painting]] referred to as "Amazing Painting" in AC Gamecube. One solution could be to refer the most-recent name of the item in the parent subpage, and the subpage with a differing name have a different root (<code>Item:Calm Painting</code>, <code>Item:Calm Painting/New Leaf</code>, and <code>Item:Amazing Painting/Animal Crossing</code>, but this brings problems on its own since <code>Item:Amazing Painting</code> refers to a ''different'' painting). Another solution is to forgo subpages altogether, since it is unlikely that a user would benefit from knowing about an item that appears in multiple games. The reason why I bring up subpages is to make it easier for queries to be made, although if using parentheses to encode the game are okay in querying, I don't think it would be a problem. [[File:Acnl spr four-leafed clover.png|x24px|link=User:Decomposer]][[User talk:Decomposer|{{colorshow|006600|Decomposer}}]] 00:20, May 20, 2020 (EDT)
 
:::: One solution to this is to use <code><nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE:Item:Amazing Painting/Animal Crossing}}</nowiki></code> to make the name appear correct, when the page actually resides at Item:Calm Painting/Animal Crossing. It would still be difficult to properly search for the item though, since it doesn't actually reside at the location you'd expect it to. I think it would just be easier to create some sort of navigation template that allows for linking to item pages for other games using the 'Item Name (Game Name)' naming scheme, rather than relying on subpages to associate the pages together. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:03, May 20, 2020 (EDT)
 
::::: Another solution is to have all appearances of an item on one page, with the page named after the item's most recent appearance (and the previous names listed on the page). This would prevent item pages from cluttering search results (if they were separated, there could be up to five pages for the same item). While creating subpages is pretty organized, they would still clutter search results. Additionally, for different items that share the same name (such as the calm painting), they could have their own page for that specific game that specifies that it's a different item in later games (kind of like [[Ladybug]] and [[Ladybug (Animal Crossing)]]), using {{t|Wrongpage}}. This would be such a small amount of items, so I don't think it would be too confusing having multiple pages for those specific items. The {{t|Wrongpage}} template or "Not to be confused with..." could also be used for items that have very similar names, such as "Butterfly-Fish Model" and "Butterfly Fish Model".  '''~'''  [[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]] ([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 13:39, May 20, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} [[User:Ruthless Cutie|Ruthless Cutie]] ([[User talk:Ruthless Cutie|talk]]) 10:40, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} {{User:FLAME1232/sig}} 10:49, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
:I like the idea, but I do worry that creating the separate namespace will actually make it harder for readers who are trying to search. For example, if someone is searching for a Blue Bed, Item:Blue Bed is unlikely to appear as a suggestion, nor will it appear in search results by default, which only show mainspace articles. We're probably going to have to create thousands of redirects to get readers to the right place.<br>
 
:Other than that, I support. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:00, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
::Great points. We can set which namespaces are searched by default through <code>$wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault</code> so that they will appear in the search recommendations (worth noting that the userspace is part of that default list and I see userpages appear plenty in search results, to the point where we're considering removing them). We can also count the namespace as a content namespace so that items are treated as articles. We can do some experimentation on how search will treat the namespace before we fully commit to this. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 12:05, May 19, 2020 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} '''~'''  [[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]] ([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]]) 13:39, May 20, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
'''Result:''' Per consensus, ''Item'' and ''Item_talk'' were created as namespaces 708/709, available for immediate use. Namespace 708 added as content namespace for search and statistics purposes. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 02:43, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
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: {{Support}} for any that deals with deprecation/deletion/merger. As for {{t|NH Content}}, I would definitely support repurposing it for future game content. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 21:52, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  
== Remodeling ==
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:* {{t|Event}}: Agree on deprecate or delete. I think a full notice like that at the top of the page is too excessive. Region exclusivity is sufficiently covered in the lead prose (and perhaps the infobox).
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:* {{t|Expansion}}: Agree on merging.
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:* {{t|Future Page}}: I'm fine with this one. Might not see frequent use, but nice to have for drafts and sandboxes. {{t|TemplateWIP}} is kind of repetitive and can be merged/deprecated/deleted.
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:* {{t|NH Content}}: Deprecate, or turn more generic if possible. IMO don't delete, good to have for history's sake.
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:* {{t|Rewrite}} & {{t|To-do}}: Agree on tossing, merge into {{t|Cleanup}}. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 23:50, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  
WOAH! The wiki was remodeled? [[User:SplatNerdBekahboo| <span style="color:orange">SplatNerdBekahboo</span>]] ([[User talk:SplatNerdBekahboo|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]]) 11:29, June 3, 2020 (EDT)
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===Standardising color schemes===
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I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.
  
: Yes, around the 20th of May, [[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] implemented a new skin that works works very nicely with mobile. ✨ [[User:Paviinka|<span style="color:#463c3d; font-family:Brush Script MT;text-shadow:1px 1px #ebe0e0">P</span><span style="color:#463c3d; font-family:Copperplate;font-variant:small-caps;text-shadow:1px 1px #ebe0e0">aviinka</span>]][[File:Papa Bear WW.png|20px|link=User:Paviinka]][[User Talk:Paviinka|<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Brush Script MT;color:#463c3d">(Message me!)</span>]] 12:14, June 3, 2020 (EDT)
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I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).
  
==Proposal for new wiki project (Purge)==
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{| class="styled"
'''Edit:''' [[Nookipedia:Project Clean-Up]] has been made!
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! Category
 
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! Description
Recently I have been working on a new large-scale project on [[User talk:Trig Jegman/Sandbox|my sandbox]] that revolves around clearing out the many unused and needed categories. The project is titled Project Purge. The end goal is to cut the To-Do list by two thirds at minimum. More information can be found on that page and its first few sections. If necessary, a larger description could be written. The project is very open form and straightforward. Fix the listed pages as described by their headers. More description can be provided if required.  
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! Templates
{{clear}}
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The header box would look similar to this:
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! Nookipedia
{{ProjectOpen}}
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| All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.
{{Project<includeonly>
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|small=yes</includeonly>
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*[[Template:Featured Article Notice]]
|backgroundcolor=c98ce5
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*[[Template:Inactive Project]]
|bordercolor=8c62a0
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*[[Template:Project Leader]]
|projectname=Project Purge
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*[[Template:Policy]]
|fontcolor=ffffff
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*[[Template:Proposed Policy]]
|projectlogo=Deluxe Washer NH Icon.png
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*[[Template:Protected talk page]]
|projectleader=Trig Jegman
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*[[Template:Vacation]]
|projectdescription=Project purge is dedicated cleaning up a lot of extra things lying around including unused files, redirects, usused or uncategorized categories/templates, and miscellaneous other formatting. In addition, it seeks to have the To-do list cleared of a majority to all of its entries.
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|-
}}
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! System
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| System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.
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|
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*[[Template:Edit Notice]]
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*[[Template:Edit Notice API]]
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*[[Template:Edit Notice Cargo Table]]
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*[[Template:High Risk Template]]
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*[[Template:Lua Notice]]
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*[[Template:No Move]]
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*[[Template:Preserve Redirect]]
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|-
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! Warning
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| Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.
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|
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*[[Template:Block]]
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*[[Template:BlockDirector]]
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*[[Template:CommunityBan]]
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*[[MediaWiki:Filehist-help]]
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! Advisory
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| Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using [[Template:Content Notice]]).
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|
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*[[Template:Archive]]
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*[[Template:Cheat]]
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*[[Template:Construction]]
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*[[Template:Deprecated]]
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*[[Template:Future Release]]
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*[[Template:Temporary]]
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|-
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! Editing
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| Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.
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|
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*[[Template:Cleanup]]
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*[[Template:Image]]
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*[[Template:Missing Information]]
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*[[Template:Music Wanted]]
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*[[Template:Orphan]]
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*[[Template:Research Needed]]
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*[[Template:Update]]
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*[[Template:Video Wanted]]
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|-
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! Request
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| Editor-focused notices for page change requests.
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|
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*[[Template:Move Request]]
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*[[Template:Merge Request]]
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*[[Template:Split Request]]
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*[[Template:Delete]]
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|-
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! Game Update
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| This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.
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|
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*[[Template:Game Update]]
 
|}
 
|}
{{clear}}
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--[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
  
===Support===
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:{{Oppose}} Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. [[File:ACL.png|20px]] [[User:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#448EE4">'''Acnh Player'''</span>]] [[User talk:Acnh Player|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''(talk)'''</span>]] [[File:ACL.png|20px]] 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
* {{Support}} Good stuff, thanks for putting the massive lists together. I'm leaving a comment about changing the project's name though, and some other things. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 06:07, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
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:Great idea! This makes sense and I think will help give our pages/the site a more cohesive look. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 01:28, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I like the idea as well, per Sunmarsh's remarks! 😄 <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 17:49, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} I think it looks really nice! I think that it’s cool. Thanks, --[[User:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#D7A5E0">SunsetBay</span>]] ([[User talk:SunsetBay|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#F3B4EF">Talk</span>]]) [[File: Bob NL Villager Icon.png|25px]] 15:25, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
  
* {{Support}} Like SuperHamster said, good job on the lists. I think this project will be very helpful in allowing people to split things into organized chunks rather than going through hundreds or even thousands of random files. Plus, making it into its own project will expand awareness instead of being relegated to your user space. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 14:05, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
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== Page Creation Request ==
  
* {{Support}} Cleaning up the site's images has long been something I've wanted to see done, so it's nice to see a project that will tackle that. Like the others have said, I do think a different name would be in order prior to starting the project. --<span class="jake-signature">[[User:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-name" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f73422; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">Jake</span>]] [[User_talk:Jake|<span class="jake-signature-talk" style="font-family:Coustard,Verdana; color:#f75b22; text-shadow: #e0e0e0 1px 1px 0;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 17:39, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
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I Want To Create A Page Request For Something I Want To Call " Terry Cloth Nightcap Colors By Villager In Animal Crossing New Horizons"[[Special:Contributions/70.70.61.15|70.70.61.15]] 11:12, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'm not sure if an entire page for that is necessary. That information could go in the {{I|terry-cloth nightcap|NH}} item page. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 22:31, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
  
* {{Support}} An organised effort to tackle these kinds of tasks is a fantastic idea. Though I too will echo that a different name might be best, though I must admit I'm not sure exactly what. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 14:31, June 14, 2020 (EDT)
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== What pages should I edit? ==
===Oppose===
 
  
===Comments===
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Hello guys! I just created an account on this wiki, and I'd really appreciate it if I could get a couple suggestions on what pages I should edit.
* I think project's name should be changed, because (a) purge has a pretty heavy negative connotation and (b) not everything on that page is going to be deleted, as is mentioned in the intro. Maybe Project Clean-Up, or some cute name that I'm not clever enough to come up with. When I've got some downtime I'll also add some notes to the page/talkpage. Off the top of my head we'll want some notes on distinguishing between unused redirects to keep or delete, as well as creating a new template to mark files that appear unused, but are actually used through something like Cargo, external tools, etc. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 06:07, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
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Any Ideas?[[User:TJS113|TJS113]] ([[User talk:TJS113|talk]]) 09:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
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:I would recommend the gallery pages, because they definitely need more images on them. [[User:NookipediaCrossing|NookipediaCrossing]] ([[User talk:NookipediaCrossing|talk]]) 21:41, July 8, 2024 (EDT)
  
* The thing is, isn't this just the same thing as the wiki-maintenance stuff/to-do list?  It is all stuff that needs to be gone through because it is unused.. but these things are already sorted in wiki-maintenance.  I agree on the name, upon reading it thought it was just a mass delete of everything.  Project Spring-Cleaning or something would work (or Summer-Cleaning if we're being technical.  {{User:Ruthless Cutie/sig}} 10:27, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
 
::Or All-Year-Round-Cleaning, if you really want to be technical. It is the same as the lists you mentioned, but Trig is sorting them out. So, their list tells you "These are the fish images. Go use them." So it's easier to make batch-edits. You'd have to dig through the maintenance lists for fish images as they're abc sorted. [[User:Paviinka|<span style="color:#463c3d; font-family:Brush Script MT;text-shadow:1px 1px #ebe0e0">P</span><span style="color:#463c3d; font-family:Copperplate;font-variant:small-caps;text-shadow:1px 1px #ebe0e0">aviinka</span>]][[File:Papa Bear WW.png|20px|link=User:Paviinka]][[User Talk:Paviinka|<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Brush Script MT;color:#463c3d">(Message me!)</span>]] 10:38, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
To cover the above bases, yeah the name could be improved but I am nowhere near enough good at naming things to make something better. Feel free to suggest things. As for redirects, I will specifically be only focusing on category and template redirects, and ''maybe'' file ones if theres a significant usage. I would make a not-unused template, but the template system here confuses me immensely and so I would not want to make a jarringly different design to one just because I know how to make it.
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== Keeping track of villagers ==
{{clear}}
 
Yes, this basically is the to-do list, but rather than a big ol' list of images in a random order, this categorizes them into sections as stated to make actually applying the changes quicker over the span of more files. I have found that this tends to get more people interested in making the changes. If it makes sense to add additional content to track, then I will add to the list, even if it doesn't appear in the to-do box. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 15:36, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
:Ohhhh okay!  That will make things easier.  I've often gone to go through those and it is very overwhelming that they aren't sorted.  Cool! {{User:Ruthless Cutie/sig}} 21:25, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
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is there a way to see when your villagers came and left my island? i forgot to write it down :( [[User:Charlotte|Charlotte]] ([[User talk:Charlotte|talk]]) 22:29, September 3, 2024 (EDT)
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{{clear}}
 
  
==Error==
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==Question from {{U|82.69.99.76}}==
I have a question.On my phone when I look at a article, it doesn't load correctly and leaves it blank. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:73.123.12.116|73.123.12.116]] ([[User talk:73.123.12.116|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.123.12.116|contribs]]) ''</small>
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I've been using Nookipedia a lot lately and it's so helpful so I wanted to help edit where I can but I can't seem to be able to. I've tried editing Julian's villager page because for some reason the sentence regarding his music hobby is broken (cut in half and repeats), and I've also noticed that the species for Snooty the anteater is missing in the NL villager tables but not sure how to fix it... Perhaps someone else can? {{Unsigned|82.69.99.76}}
:Hi there - can you list the articles you're seeing this issue, or is it all articles? What phone + version of mobile OS are you using? <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 18:28, June 8, 2020 (EDT)
 
It is every article that has a picture. But if it is a villager or special character It shows the first picture but everything else is a blank white box and doesn't fix when I refresh the page {{unsigned|73.123.12.116}}
 
And I'm using a lg. It seems to be just this website. I'm not sure what's going on.
 
:What browser do you use? Do you have anything on your phone that could filter web pages (e.g. ad blocking)? --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 14:25, June 14, 2020 (EDT)
 
I use Google and I'm not sure... This doesn't happen with other wikis like super Mario wiki {{unsigned|73.123.12.116}}
 
:Happened to me too, using Chrome on Android. Enabling desktop view fixed it though. [[User:PinkYoshiFan|PinkYoshiFan]] ([[User talk:PinkYoshiFan|talk]]) 11:46, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
== Links to the talk page on notice templates ==
 
  
Hey, I noticed that on notice templates, such as [[Template:Update]], it links to the talk page like this: <code><nowiki>'''[[{{TALKPAGENAME:{{{2|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}}|talk page]]'''</nowiki></code>. However, this is formatted as an internal link, so it creates a red link if the talk page doesn't exist. On WiKirby, this is dealt with by formatting it as an external link (see [https://wikirby.com/wiki/Template:Talk here]). Should that be done with the notice templates? [[Special:Contributions/216.30.159.93|216.30.159.93]] 08:49, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
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[[Category:Active discussions]]
:Sounds like good idea, thanks for suggesting it. I'd certainly be all for implementing it into the notice templates. --[[File:Shark HHD Icon.png|20px]] [[User:Dorsal Axe|<span style="color:#0B3E57; font-family: Coustard">Dorsal Axe</span>]] <span style="font-family: Coustard"><small>([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]])</small></span> 18:22, July 26, 2020 (EDT)
 
  
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== Australia flag ==
  
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I'm continuing this from a discussion started on [[User talk:PanchamBro#Flag of Australia|PanchamBro's talk page]], as it does concern me that the Australian flag has been changed site-wide to the Aboriginal version without any discussion beforehand. Given that this is a change affecting many pages (the flag appears next to release date and DLC information, for example), I feel that any change should ideally be agreed upon first, possibly even as a Proposal. Reasons cited for the change include avoiding confusion with the New Zealand flag (although that one is rarely used on Nookipedia) and human rights violations, but there's disagreement about whether the Aboriginal flag is even official enough to be used as the Australia flag on Nookipedia. Personally, I'd rather use the official flag unless there's an overwhelming case for changing it. Does anyone else have any thoughts? [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC Villager Icon.png|20px]] 14:13, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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:*I support reverting to the official national flag. I know the Aboriginal flag is one of several official flags, and I recognize the movement to make it ''the'' national flag. However, my understanding is that the Aboriginal flag represents the Aboriginal people of Australia, and I'm not sure it's apt to generalize the flag to mean all of Australia until Australia formally recognizes it as such. We should default to using what is considered the official national flag. [[Template:UB Australian]] was also changed to use the Aboriginal flag - I think we should revert this, but have the flag available as an option via a parameter. '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 15:27, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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::I think it would be better if we kept the Aboriginal flag to represent Oceania on this wiki since that's the general market that Nintendo sells at. Leaving only the Australian flag as it, but as a separate file, for users and stuff. Of course, this would also come with discussions on how we handle flags here, because North America doesn't have a unified flag to represent Canada and the United States. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 17:51, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
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:*I am also in support with Drago and SH with reverting back to the official flag per their prior points. It might be ''a flag'' of Australia, but in my 20+ years on the internet, I've never seen it used in an official capacity and here, I feel it shouldn't be used as such to lessen confusion and fit more in line with our MoS with other official flags for say the United States, Canada, etc. Unless it was changed on a national/international level in Australia and/or discussed in a proposal with team members, these changes should not have taken place and a more formal process should have been done before mass changes to this flag and another countries were done. <nowiki>~</nowiki>[[User:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#32CD32">'''Poizon'''</span>]][[User talk:PoizonMushro0m|<span style="color:#228B22">'''Mushro0m'''</span>]][[File:PoizonMush Sig.png|link=Special:Contributions/PoizonMushro0m|15px]] 02:23, September 15, 2024 (EDT)
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Given the above discussion, I've done the following:
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* Moved the Aboriginal Australia flag from <code>[[:File:Flag of Australia.svg]]</code> to <code>[[:File:Flag of Aboriginal Australia.svg]]</code>
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* <code>[[:File:Flag of Australia.svg]]</code> is now the official national flag of Australia (and used across our articles)
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Thanks, '''~[[User:SuperHamster|''<span style="color:#07517C;">Super</span>''<span style="color:#6FA23B;">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 06:06, September 21, 2024 (EDT)
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:I'm late to this discussion, but just thought I'd add my two AUD cents. I think this is a good resolution. I don't want to get too much into it, since it's a complex and nuanced sociopolitcal discussion that isn't relevant here, but as an Australian (who has lived abroad for a long, long time) I've never seen the Australian Aboriginal Flag used to represent the country globally in any official capacity. Having the option of which flag to use in the userbox a good, inclusive idea though. Some users may wish to use it to represent themselves, and should have the option to do so. Meanwhile, many non-Aboriginal Australians support usage of the flag but do ''not'' feel comfortable appropriating it for themselves due its historical and cultural context.
  
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== Pages with reference errors ==
  
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Would it be better to create a Note section par page with a single <nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki> or to have a <nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki> in the footnote of each Table having a note?
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:Thanks for letting me know. I'm currently fixing those pages by adding <code><nowiki>{{Note list}}</nowiki></code> to them. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 16:20, October 4, 2024 (EDT)
  
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For villager pages, should there be an image example on how their HHP vacation home will look like? there's already that for HHA, so why not HHP? [[User:RedPikmin95|RedPikmin95]] ([[User talk:RedPikmin95|talk]]) 11:33, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
I noticed that this page was going to be deleted but never happened. This page had 3 of those little reminders with character icons like isabelle, blanka, etc. But those were removed. Can someone explain why it was marked for deletion? (Also sorry if there are spelling errors typing on a phone is hard) [[User:Koopadude99|Koopadude99]] ([[User talk:Koopadude99|talk]]) 23:37, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
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:The Happy Home Designer (HHD) villager boxes utilize house examples that were officially posted by Nintendo of Japan ([[:Category:Happy Home Designer request screenshots|see here for all images]]). For Happy Home Paradise, Nintendo did post a few examples of house requests ([[:Category:Happy Home Paradise promotional screenshots|some can be found here]]), but it's not comprehensive like they did for HHD. This is why HHP doesn't have an equivalent. [[User:HylianAngel|HylianAngel]] ([[User talk:HylianAngel|talk]]) 15:18, October 10, 2024 (EDT)
:Looking at the page history, it never was marked with any notice tags, including the delete one... {{User:PinkYoshiFan/sig}} 08:12, July 30, 2020 (EDT)
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Oh yeah the tune one. The regular one was deemed to be fine but the tune had multiple tags, it was a stub and the talk page didn't exist.[[User:Koopadude99|Koopadude99]] ([[User talk:Koopadude99|talk]]) 10:33, July 30, 2020 (EDT)
 

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Specific tasks
  • Our villager pages could use house descriptions. At the top of villager house sections, add a description describing common themes and changes to the villager's house throughout the series. Examples available on Eunice and Alfonso.
  • Add "Appearance" sections to our New Horizons wallpaper and floor pages to describe what they look like. Example at Underwater Wall. Screenshots of all walls and floors located here and here, respectively.
  • Restructure and populate our fossil pages with info for Animal Crossing, Wild World, City Folk, and New Leaf using our new fossil info templates. Our New Horizons info is already complete - see Brachiosaurus for an example for how to replicate.
  • Work on our Pocket Camp coverage; visit Project Pocket Camp for more info. Coverage needed includes Gyroidite Scavenger Events, fortune cookie sets, Happy Homeroom puzzles, and memories.
  • Our merchandise coverage needs lots of expansion! Help expand our existing lists and create new ones using the {{MerchSeries}} and {{MerchCell}} templates.
  • Add "Characteristics" sections to our special character pages. See Redd#Characteristics for an example.
  • Write a synopsis for Pocket Camp memories. Be sure to remove the {{Stub}} template from the Synopsis section when completed in order to remove the article from this list.
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Project Clean-Up

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Project Clean-Up is dedicated cleaning up unused files, redirects, unused or uncategorized categories/templates, and miscellaneous other formatting. In addition, it seeks to have the To-do list cleared of a majority to all of its entries.
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Project Database

Leader: SuperHamster
Project Database aims to generate a Nookipedia database that contains factual information on all aspects of the Animal Crossing Series.
Project Images

Project Images

Leader: Kalina70
Project Images involves categorizing every image based on game, character, and content, replacing outdated/poor quality images, uploading requested images and renaming images to be more concise.
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Project Interface

Leader: Wanted
Project Interface works to develop Nookipedia's interface and templates across all devices.
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Project Items

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It's a project. And it's about furniture, clothing, interior, and many other items in the series.
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Project Museum

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Project Museum covers fish, insects, sea creatures, paintings, fossils, and constellations. Over 150 articles and counting!
Project Music

Project Music

Leader: Vmario97
Project Music lists and provides a sample of all the music in the Animal Crossing series.
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Project Pocket Camp

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Project Pocket Camp focuses on keeping the Pocket Camp coverage up-to-date.
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Example topic[edit]

Post new topics below! Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:03, January 1, 2019 (EST)

Add internal name and ID regarding item[edit]

There's support to add the internal name/ID of items to the item pages. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:44, February 29, 2024 (EST)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Something that has been on my mind lately was adding internal name and ID regarding a particular item. For instance, the tulip table in Animal Crossing has the filename sum_poptable01 and the internal ID 126C. I believe having information on the item pages would be useful for dataminers, modders, and such if they wanted to inspect information regarding a particular item instead of having to waddle through loads of spreadsheet information. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 09:26, January 29, 2023 (EST)

Support Support for the reasons you've given. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 10:36, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:58, January 29, 2023 (EST)
Support Support BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 15:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

The animal emoji redirects[edit]

There doesn't seem to be a high demand to save the animals. The animal redirects shall be deleted. HylianAngel (talk) 20:43, February 16, 2023 (EST)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Right now there are some emoji redirects involving the species pages. Currently these redirects exist: 🐂 🐊 🐒 🐕 🐦 🐵 🐶 🐺 🐻 🦍 They are kind of peculiar, and I can't really gauge if these would necessarily be useful. They're so silly that I wouldn't even mind keeping them. I had to do a double-take when I checked Wikipedia, and they actually utilize emoji redirects, so it seems like they potentially serve some sort of usefulness. But either way, we should either:

a. Complete the collection and create more redirects involving the remaining missing animal emojis from the species pages
b. Delete the existing animal emoji redirects.

What do you think? HylianAngel (talk) 02:28, February 6, 2023 (EST)

Very much against the use of animal emoji redirects. I just do not think they are reasonably used or feasibly searched. Trig - 02:07, February 10, 2023 (EST)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

New Project: Project Languages[edit]

I think we should start a project where we fill up the boxes with "unknown" in on templates. --Sylveon (Autistic and proud!)🍉🌺 08:53, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Currently, the major missing romanization on all articles, especially villager articles, is Traditional Chinese, as it was made a separate entry from Simplified Chinese. For Japanese, Korean, and Simplified Chinese (the mainland language of China), you can pretty much use Google Translate to obtain an acceptable romanization of the name. However, Traditional Chinese is a slightly more complicated subject to tackle.
I asked my Chinese friend if this Traditional Chinese romanization of Marina's name was correct, because it was so different from the Simplified Chinese romanization. Zhānglìnà vs. Jēung Laahp Nóh is crazy different, to me as an English-speaking person. But no, she mulled it for a few seconds and said, yep, the Traditional Chinese romanization in this situation is correct. Nookipedia is using the Hong Kong flag, which implies the dialect is Cantonese. I asked her to ignore the flag, and she said you can't do that, the flag matters. I told her that most other wikis, like Bulbapedia and WiKirby don't use flags, and they usually have it simply stated as "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" in written text without flags, and that they tend to make both of those romanizations identical. She said that's the wrong way to approach it, since you're basically erasing an entire dialect from existence by making the romanizations identical. I asked her, would it make sense to make the Traditional and Simplified Chinese romanizations the same if the flag was not there at all, and she said, yes, some dialects of Traditional Chinese would have identical romanization as Simplified Chinese, but that is why the flag is so important in this scenario because the Hong Kong flag implies the Cantonese dialect, and you shouldn't make the romanizations the same if it's the Hong Kong flag.
She also explained that China has been attempting to erase Cantonese for some time in order to make Simplified Chinese the main language. Another unfortunate aspect is that we wouldn't even be able to obtain any Cantonese Traditional Chinese romanizations on Nookipedia without the help of a Cantonese-speaking person, because Google Translate spits out identical romanizations for Simplified and Traditional Chinese anyways. So we have a major problem where the Hong Kong flag would be misleading if we were to copy-paste the Simplified Chinese romanizations to be the same as the Traditional Chinese romanizations, but if we were to decide to stick with Hong Kong/Cantonese, we probably will never have any Traditional Chinese romanizations ever, unless a Cantonese person decides to join and contribute for every page (and my Chinese friend does not know Cantonese). HylianAngel (talk) 16:13, February 17, 2023 (EST)
I may not know much about Cantonese at the moment, but I've been thinking about it considering that it has several romanizations that could be used here. I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia used Yale romanization for Cantonese, but on the other hand, there's also Jyutping romanization. If we can get some pointers on which of these romanizations should be used here, it would be a good start. Not to mention, the example of Marina earlier on seems to be using Yale's. Starry Windy 23:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Villager Quotes[edit]

Hi! I am new to being an editor, but recently I noticed Nookipedia doesn't do individual quotes for villagers, something the Animal Crossing Wiki does do. I've been adding quotes for a few villagers, but not too many. I wanted to garner some support before I continue to do more. I know most quotes are similar within personality, but there are some, like picture quotes, that are individual to certain villagers. I think this could be really cool to do for every villager, because the rest of the villager page isn't very personalized at all. Plus, sometimes, people only need the page to look for the picture quote, and putting it at the top of the page could be useful. I think it would be fun for the editors, and readers, to mix it up a little. So, community, do you have an opinion? Should I keep going? Omigpine11 (talk) 17:59, March 11, 2023 (EST)Omigpine11

Although photo quotes are "unique dialogue" involving the villager, I feel it is not needed to include it at the top of the page, since this info is available within the infobox ("favorite saying"), which is very close to the top of the page already. If a reader only needs the photo quote, they already have easy access. These quotes are also located on the Photo page. I personally Oppose Oppose adding photo quotes to the top of villager pages. However, I Support Support adding quotes on villager pages in cases where it is in-game dialogue completely exclusive to the villager. These cases are rare, but some cases do occur in New Horizons involving very specific species-personality combos (where there is only 1 villager who is that species-personality, like Wendy the peppy sheep, on Year of the Sheep). While it's not really from the game, I agree with the Alfonso quote you added from the official NH website, since it is indeed completely unique. HylianAngel (talk) 18:25, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Actually HylianAngel, the top quote on Alfonso's page is a quote lazy villagers say in New Horizons, just that "This place" is replaced with whatever you named your island. Just a warning that the source I am about to provide does contain some very crude language, but it's the only proof I was able to find of the quote being used in-game, so please bear with me on this one (quote is on the 4th pic): https://imgflip.com/i/43nbpn
That being said, I don't really mind it being Alfonso's top quote since the website does make that association. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 18:31, March 11, 2023 (EST)
Thanks, I should have worded it more clearly that it's a unique association. I did remember the dialogue from playing NH, so saying "completely unique" was not entirely correct when I was trying to convey my reasoning. HylianAngel (talk) 18:34, March 11, 2023 (EST)
I wanted to mention that I went ahead and added the unique dialogue involving New Year's Day for unique species-personality combos to the "Trivia" sections of the involved pages, but only for bulls/cows (2021), tigers (2022), and rabbits (2023). So this would be Coach, Norma, Patty, Rolf, Claudia, Gaston, Coco, and Mira.
I didn't add the dialogue for future years yet, which would be horses (2026), sheep (2027), monkeys (2028), birds (2029), dogs (2030), pigs (2031), and mice (2032). Actually, from reading the dialogue files, it's unclear if Year of the Rooster (2029) will apply to all bird-related species (birds, ducks, eagles, ostriches, penguins, and chickens), a subset of these bird species, or just chickens themselves. The dialogue specifically says "Year of the Bird," or "Year of the Rooster," depending on the personality type of the speaking villager, but mostly these dialogues state "Year of the Bird." Unless someone time travels to 2029 and checks each species, or unless a dataminer could examine the code, it probably won't be known. Anyways, I felt it would make sense to just add the dialogue for 2021-2023 and not the future years yet. However, I wouldn't be against adding the future years either. HylianAngel (talk) 07:14, March 12, 2023 (EDT)

Villager catchphrases[edit]

I strongly believe that villager pages should have a dedicated section to their catchphrases in each language, in the same style as their given name in the "Names in other languages" section. Currently there is not a good place to describe the meaning of a villager's foreign catchphrases, so there are cases where the Japanese catchphrase holds some relevance to the character, but since there is no decent section to place it, it is instead placed at the top of the page, where it sits next to any relevant English given name and English catchphrase origin information. That location is somewhat awkward, since it's inconsistent to have the English given name, the English catchphrase, no Japanese given name (since Japanese name info is generally placed in the "Names in other languages" section), and then the Japanese catchphrase.

If there was a dedicated section for catchphrases in other languages, it would not only allow describing any Japanese catchphrase relevance, but also the relevance of catchphrases of every other language as well, and there is currently no location to place non-English or non-Japanese catchphrase relevancy information. Basic "names in other languages" and "catchphrases in other languages" data exists in the infobox, and yet only the "names in other languages" is duplicated at the bottom of the page. I believe both should be at the bottom of the page.

While the main article header would be "Names in other languages," there are 2 different formatting styles that could be implemented:

  • The sub-headers are the words "Given name" and "Catchphrase."
    • Optionally and additionally, in combination with this style so that the name and catchphrase are extremely explicit, a parameter for the English name can be included, like how Fire Emblem Wiki does it (example here). While it might be currently redundant with the English information included in the intro prose, I think it's fine for there to be redundant information, as many villager pages already do repeat redundant information (like the infobox repeating the foreign names information), and it can serve a very useful utility purpose if intros are ever repurposed to no longer include English name/catchphrase origins. Plus, it would allow for future "favorite sayings" English explanations, which no intros do unless it's related to the character's identity/species somehow, but I feel this would be good information to include no matter what.
  • The sub-headers are the character's actual name and catchphrase, like for example Sherb, the sub-headers would be "Sherb" and "bawwww."

I'm also open to other suggestions for the formatting style. I'm slightly partial to the first style, just because there might be a case where "favorite sayings" are also given their own dedicated section in the future, and the full saying might be weird as a header. What formatting do you think would be best? HylianAngel (talk) 14:50, April 4, 2023 (EDT), edited again on 16:11, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

If this is something you're still interested in, I'd love to work with you on implementation! I agree that catchphrases are one of the few unique personality-defining characteristics of a villager (as most of their dialog is shared), and agree we should have a space to talk about the nuances of their catchphrase in different languages. I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're suggesting regarding implementation, though. I can't tell whether you're suggesting to add catchphrases to {{Foreignname}} or whether you're suggesting a new template & section that also includes the given name. I think that having its own section and template is best, and it would appear very similar to Foreignname, which actually doesn't have any headers at all (the meaning of the columns is inferred from the title of the section). Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 02:30, June 27, 2024 (EDT)

I caught the spirit!![edit]

I caught farley!! ~SylveonSig.png 08:51, April 11, 2023 (EDT)

Trig Jegman's File Template[edit]

As I am sure you have seen, I've been working on the creation and generation of my file module for Nookipedia. The time is now to suggest that it is used instead of the existing Template:File Info.

First, to be explicitly clear, this module would work the same as a template to the degree that I have made sure everything will retroactively work on it. Nothing would break by the implementation of the module.

Second: My module is a lot beefier than the existing template is now. Here's the main takeaways:

  • Combined licensing. No more need for having 33 different licensing templates, when the module will take care of all of them collectively.
  • More maintenance parameters and a closer analysis of sourcing. There are several maintenance features included, such as files taken from FANDOM sources or YouTube.
  • Predesignated sources for when the user captures an image themself.
  • Automatic categorization. This is the big one: Through the introduction of two new parameters (game and type), files will now automatically be categorized into their appropriate categories, making widescale changes easier and formatting more consistent.
  • This is an excellent opportunity to look at all of the files on site and reduce duplicates, fix naming, improve quality, and get specific sources amongst other tasks.

I wouldn't propose this if I didn't have great success in implementing this before. I have completely added this style of template to every single file on WiKirby, Wars Wiki, Inkipedia, MiiWiki, The Cycle: Frontier, as well as partial completion on Mystery Dungeon Francise Wiki, FamiWiki, and StrategyWiki. I've done it before and I'm more than happy to do it again to get this implemented. I really think that having this upgrade is a valuable resource and helps create consistency both on this site and in conjunction with other wikis as well. I have a few examples of use cases here to understand what it might look like. The new parameters are the following:

  • Game — Allows an automatic link to a game, and can work to add automatic categories.
  • Type/Meta — These two pull from a determined list of common types (such as Artwork, Screenshots, Amiibo, or User Files) in order to automatically categorize files. The difference between type and meta is that type will categorize based off the game entry (New Leaf sprites), meta will only do off the type (Sprites).
  • User — Used for user files or when attributing the source to someone else.
  • Author — At the suggestion/request of Shams, useful for creative commons files.
  • License — All those licensing templates are here now
  • Fandom/Youtube — By setting these to yes, it places files taken from these less than desirable locations into a maintenance category for replacement.

I'm happy to make more examples, or give breakdowns of how I would go about fixing these, or answer any questions about it. Please let me know how you feel about implementing it on Nookipedia as well! Trig - 13:22, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Support Support - Everything here looks great! The combined licensing and automatic categorization are especially welcome additions; I can't think of anything at the moment that I'd add or change. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 01:08, July 6, 2023 (EDT)
Support Support I think this could work. I do believe though that if we agree on this more, we should set up a proposal to implement. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:41, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Horizons villager box item capitalization[edit]

PanchamBro's bot fixed the capitalization of New Horizons items on almost all villager pages, but since Jacob/Jakey and Spork/Crackle have 2 different names, I think the bot skipped over those two. Making a note here that it needs to eventually be fixed, don't have time to fix it myself at the moment. HylianAngel (talk) 15:51, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This should be fixed now! -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 01:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you! HylianAngel (talk) 20:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

wanna join my club???[edit]

it is called bob fan club - unsigned comment from FroggyPotter (talkcontribs)

Sure. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 05:31, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Help with Cargo Tables[edit]

Are there any resources to help figure out how they work? If not can some please explain them to me? TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 22:56, August 24, 2023 (EDT)

Here are a couple of resources:
My personal understanding of it is that the gist of it is that you'll have a template for a type of page with a bunch of input fields. In the template you say that inputs in those fields get stored in a big behind-the-scenes table. You can then create a cargo query table to list specific stuff from that big table on any page you want. For better understanding the template side of things it helps to look at templates that use cargo, and for cargo query tables it helps to look at and compare different pages that use different cargo queries. Hope this helps a bit! Bassieeee (talk) 07:19, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you so much, I couldn't find anything on them anywhere.
TheMajesticPineapple (talk) 09:30, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
Nookipedia:Project Database has some good information on cargo tables, and we have a channel for discussing cargo tables on our Discord server. --BladeofEvilsBane (talk) 19:00, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

Ideas.[edit]

1. Project Trivia. A project focused on trivia. I would be happy to lead this project. 2. An Animal Crossing Debate Club. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 14:29, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to lean with the former not being necessary. Trivia as a whole is not an inherent requirement for pages to have, and in many instances (broadly across all wikis, not exclusively here), people get really obsessed with adding trivia points that would much better be served in main article sections like descriptions or are so vague or stretches that they aren't inherently useful—I'd be concerned a project like that would encourage something like that. If the project was to perhaps update and consolidate or re-integrate trivia, I would be more on board.
The idea of a debate club is cool, but it's not really what a wiki is for. Furthermore, the format of a wiki isn't terribly constructive for a rapid-fire debate club style of writing/conversation. I would suggest joining an Animal Crossing discord (or making your own) for something like this.
These are just my opinions on the matter, hope it helps. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
OK, Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Margie NL Villager Icon.png 07:23, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Discussing our proposal system[edit]

I'm starting to think non-Trustees shouldn't make proposals here. While so far we only had FroggyPotter's recent proposal asking for "one staff to be active at all time", I get this feeling that users not acquainted with policy-making will go to the proposal system for something that isn't a change affecting "a large number of pages or users".

What do you think? Should we limit the creation of proposal to only Trustees or not? -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

  • Comment Comment I probably wouldn't support going that far; I think everyone should have a chance to submit their ideas as a proposal. We could limit to autoconfirmed, but that wouldn't help much.
I do, however, think there should be an ability for admins to veto proposals that are clearly unnecessary or relate to how the staff operate, like there is on MarioWiki. FroggyPotter's proposal would fall into the latter category. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 10:46, September 6, 2023 (EDT)
  • I dig an ability to veto a proposal that is unnecessary or is in regards to staff and all. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:32, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
  • When overhauling Inkipedia's proposal system recently, we introduced a veto that would require three administrators to veto a proposal in a publicly listed third vote in order to shut things down. Not saying this is better or worse than the above listed, just that it is another option. Trig - 02:28, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
  • Comment Comment Agree with Drago on both points. Chubby Bub (talk) 21:00, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

Translating the wiki[edit]

I would like to translate the wiki to Italian. Does anyone know if I have to get permission or if there's a way to add new languages to pages? Edit: I see both the Spanish and German version have gone separate ways but I was aiming to just add something to Nookipedia itself. FUGOSHROOM (talk) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)FUGOSHROOM

Delete single-character species pages[edit]

There are currently 18 species pages for species that only contain a single character. All of them are no longer than one or two sentences, usually just describing what the character does or what they look like, which is already covered on that character's own article. Therefore, I propose that these pages be redirected to their respective characters' pages. The following pages would be affected by this:

~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 02:26, December 21, 2023 (EST)

Comment Comment For the most part, I don't have any attachment to the single-special-character species pages, though it would be a loss for the fox, gray langur, peacock, and reindeer pages specifically, since those happen to have additional information involving related villagers that are depicted to be the same as those species, in appearance only (e.g. Audie and Chief on the fox page). Though that's not to say it means we should keep these species pages, because it's not like there's pages for every unique portrayal of an animal villager species (like zebra for Savannah, flamingo for Flora, etc.), just the villagers that coincidentally line up with special character species. Though I felt like it was worth noting for a fuller picture for the vote. HylianAngel (talk) 03:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Support Support I feel there isn't much point in giving a species a dedicated article if there's only one character of said species, cuz there really isn't much (if anything) the species page can cover that the character's article can't (lest we wanna fill 'em with a bunch of real-world info that has no relevancy to the character/series).
I also noticed that the axolotl page has an image of its real-life counterpart, with the only other species page with this distinction being raccoon. Admittedly I question the necessity of these images (mostly the raccoon dog pic, anyway), but I'll save that for different discussion, I just wanted to bring it up. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 14:00, December 21, 2023 (EST)
Comment Comment I feel that it would be a good cleanup, but yeah, as stated above, some pages show some details, like Julia resembling a Peacock or Deli looking like a gray tangur, although they are listed under different species. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 02:44, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Oppose Oppose While I get the reasons behind this, I think we shouldn't rule out the possibilities of new characters based on these species in case if future Animal Crossing games comes around. Case in point: New Horizons brought several new characters like C.J., Flick, Daisy Mae and Gullivarrr, which represents beaver, chameleon, boar and seagull respectively, which prior to New Horizons also have only one characters. If they didn't get introduced, these species pages might possibly be on jeopardy as well. There's also some trivia but notable mentions like from Erik and Julia which were easily found in these species pages. For these reasons, I have to disagree with this. Starry Windy 18:47, January 6, 2024 (EST)
If more characters in these species are introduced in later games, then we can recreate these pages then. But as it is now, these pages don't offer any information that isn't already on the character's page. I agree that it's worth noting the villagers who resemble some of these species, but that can be noted on that villager's page in the "Appearance" section. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 18:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Comment Comment Could we not merge them all into a single page? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 04:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Use screenshots instead of artwork on special character pages[edit]

Right now, on special character pages in the "Appearances" sections for each game, we generally have artwork of that character from that game. However, I think screenshots from that game would be much more useful to readers, both in showing how the character appears/works in each game, and to better illustrate what is being described in the prose. I think artwork doesn't really add much and is better suited for the character's gallery page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 16:44, December 25, 2023 (EST)

Support Support That's the most logical system for portraying the content and how it should consistently be everywhere. I think the only reason why it's not already like that is because of the lack of special character screenshots for each game in the series. Blanca and Katie in the older games would be especially difficult. HylianAngel (talk) 20:38, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Cantonese spelling[edit]

I'm not sure if it's alright to create a new section here because I've covered this on several threads before, but I think it would be a good time to discuss which kind of spelling that will be used on Cantonese romanizations. As described on previous threads, I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but I wanted the Cantonese spellings to be filled. The thing is, Cantonese has several known spellings which makes me not sure which one to put in.

You see, Yale romanization and Jyutping are two of the things that I considered. Yale seems to be used in a certain NIWA sites that I know of, like Bulbapedia, and some of the spellings here are Yale-esque. On other side, Jyutping is considered to be newer, and sites like Wiktionary seems to be fond of using it. I'll give some examples for comparison, but I'm taking cues from a certain pinyin converter, so I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, but here goes:

Blathers (傅達)
Yale romanization: fuh daaht
Jyutping romanization: fu6 daat6

Brewster (老闆)
Yale romanization: lóuh báan
Jyutping romanization: lou5 baan2

Isabelle (西施惠)
Yale romanization: sāi sī waih
Jyutping romanization: sai1 si1 wai6

Now, I've been thinking three options. Option A is to have Yale romanization being used entirely, or Option B where Jyutping is used in all the pages. There's also Option C where Yale and Jyutping romanization being used side by side, even though I'm not sure if infoboxes would allow two of them. Or is there another way to do it? And what do you guys think? Please respond kindly, thanks. Starry Windy 11:15, January 3, 2024 (EST)

I'm down to changing how we do romanizations in general. A thing that bothers me is that there aren't many good sites out there that can get us accurate romanizations for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese (like any of them really). Definitely a goal to be made when Project Languages comes into fruition. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 07:36, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Actually, I think Chinese romanizations are pretty much standardized. For Simplified Chinese, we often use Hanyu Pinyin which is widely used in Mainland China and Singapore according to Wikipedia, and is considered the international standard. And I'm pretty sure we've used this one in practically all articles that has it. Other notable romanizations include Gwoyeu Romatzyh which was used back then but rarely so nowadays, and also Wade-Giles and Yale.
Speaking of Yale, it has two kinds of romanizations, one for Mandarin and one for Cantonese. The latter apparently is still widely used, it's systematic in how things are spelled, which somehow almost mirrors Hanyu Pinyin in some ways. Apart from Yale, I also think of Jyutping as systematic spelling. And I haven't even get started on Cantonese Pinyin, which is a real deal as well. Things to note, the reason I'm not sure on how accurate the Cantonese romanizations are is simply because I didn't learn much on Cantonese yet. Starry Windy 08:45, January 6, 2024 (EST)
It's moreso the fact that it's harder to find sites that can auto-romanize them, but I do feel it's important to have someone experienced with that language to handle that romanization. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 08:48, January 6, 2024 (EST)
Well, I do found one site for it. For the examples I gave above, I was taking reference from this site, and I find the spelling for Marina was a 100% match. It's from this site that I knew Bulbapedia used Yale spelling, too. Still, I also agreed that we need someone experienced on Cantonese, too. Starry Windy 08:55, January 6, 2024 (EST)

A new Project?[edit]

Idea: Project Languages! It would be centered around interwiki links and modifying the villagers' articles to make them more... accessible for those who don't speak English, such as links to the Spanish and German Animal Crossing wikis, and... More details in other languages than just the names, such as the photo quotes and catchphrases. You know, make the wiki more open to people who don't speak English. BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:37, January 6, 2024 (EST)

I actually just looked at the top post here, so maybe we could combine this with that? And I also saw an idea that comes from 2021 on the Projects talk page: Something called "Project Linguistics". Well, if it's okay for the creator of the original idea, I think I've found the name for this project! BrikyEmotion Greetings NH Icon.png 16:43, January 6, 2024 (EST)

Hi, that was my idea and I think thats super cool! Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Bob NL Villager Icon.png 15:27, August 1, 2024 (EDT)

Possible Incorrect Genre for the Wild World Rubber Plant[edit]

Hi there! I've been playing Animal Crossing: Wild World quite a lot lately and had a villager that was into collecting Old-school furniture. The Rubber Plant was in Nook's store and is on the old-school list, so I grabbed it. When I gave the villager the rubber plant, he rejected it saying it's not old-school. He refused to take it when I tried again. I'm not sure which genre it's supposed to be corrected to though. (Sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way, I'm new!) MadRayne (talk) 16:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)

It looks like all the items in the House Plant Set had incorrect genres; they have all been corrected to Chic. All the genres are now taken directly from the game's files, so there shouldn't be any more errors. Thank you for pointing this out! ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 14:45, January 9, 2024 (EST)

Userbox question[edit]

Hiya im Ceariah im new to the wiki. Just a question how do you make a userbox? Ceariah (talk) 06:25, January 21, 2024 (EST)

You can go to the Userbox page to find some userboxes and a guide on how to use them. Have a good day and welcome to Nookipedia! Briky If you know how to make this link to my talk page, please tell me! 12:28, January 24, 2024 (EST)

i got a black rose by accident[edit]

woke up today to find a black rose, which surprised me because i don't even have a special red rose (i think), which you get by crossing a purple and an orange. i don't even have a purple rose anywhere in my town, only way i can see this happening is if theres another way to create a special red rose.

NL Unintended Black Rose.png

--Erick7477719 (talk) 10:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

There is a chance that breeding red roses will give you a black rose. At least you got one! DriftveilBread (talk) 12:53, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
Water the black rose with a gold watering can and you might get a gold rose! ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:40, April 9, 2024 (EDT)

If I find vandalism, where should I report it?[edit]

Where do I report users? Acnh Player (talk) 23:55, March 24, 2024 (EDT)

Nookipedia:Staff noticeboard is the best place on-wiki. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:07, March 25, 2024 (EDT)

Memes[edit]

Should users be allowed to post meme images related to animal crossing here? Vote underneath. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:51, April 11, 2024 (EDT)

No. Trig Jegman - 00:31, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose Sorry, but it's too off-topic for a website that has dedicated itself to making an encyclopedia about Animal Crossing. There's a channel on Nookipedia:Discord that is much more suitable for memes. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:12, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
I said "Related to" animal crossing. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 11:14, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
They still wouldn't have any use on articles though. You could maybe upload them as personal images if they're not inappropriate. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:19, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
If you're referring to a mainspace page that does allow Animal Crossing meme images, the closest thing would be the "Pop-culture phenomena" section on the "List of Animal Crossing references in other media" page, but I feel a meme should have widespread notability to be listed on that page lest it be severely bloated with unnoteworthy memes. Snapping Turtle NH Icon.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinSoft-Shelled Turtle NH Icon.png 20:02, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
How about if you want to post memes it has to be approved by a staff first. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 20:17, April 12, 2024 (EDT)

Removing "count by game" from Infobox Species and Infobox Personality[edit]

There is consensus to remove this information from the infobox and integrate within the body of the articles. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 15:56, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

I wanted to get some feedback from users on the idea of removing the count of villagers by game from Template:Infobox Species and Template:Infobox Personality and integrating it into the species and personality articles as tables. Currently, this information is cramped within the infoboxes, and I feel this is only going to get worse with each new game that is released. Additionally, we're using a crude custom implementation for these two templates, instead of utilising the standard Template:Infobox.

What I'm proposing is that we adapt this information as a table in its own section within the species/personality articles. We're already using Cargo to query the database for the exact count, so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt this. We would leave the current running total counts in the infoboxes as is, but replace the custom implementation of these templates with Template:Infobox.

Any thoughts? --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 09:11, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

I'd be down to make this info more accessible. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 10:23, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Actually should we remove this, we may in fact have to delete the infoboxes themselves since they aren't particularly special anymore. It doesn't help that for Template:Infobox Personality, the other category left, which counts if a villager is an islander or not, is redundant for big sister and smug, which do not have this info. I'm more lenient with how this is used for Template:Infobox Species, but again I could just see this being moved altogether.
With that said, I Support Support their deletion. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 00:32, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I agree that these infoboxes are becoming cramped, and I'd support switching to something tidier. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:46, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Oppose Oppose I think the count is necessary for the infoboxes, as it can be helpful ate certain times, like when a user wants to see how many of those are in each game. I don't really think the infoboxes are cramped. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 18:22, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
The information is not being removed, just moved to the body of the article. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 23:47, May 18, 2024 (EDT)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Notice Box template cleanup[edit]

As part of my work on some interface improvements, I'm looking to rework Template:Notice Box. I've already come up with a massively simplified template (code-wise, visually it's identical) but there are two points of discussion I would like to raise with the community before proceeding with the implementation. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Templates for discussion[edit]

I've been going through the different notice templates, and feel that there is scope to merge some and remove others. I'm proposing we deprecate, merge, or delete the following:

  • Template:Event
    • No longer used in any articles, so could be deprecated or deleted. It would be more suitable to add a field in Template:Infobox Event to denote region-exclusivity than to have a notice.
  • Template:NH Content
    • Was used specifically around the launch of New Horizons and is no longer needed for its intended purpose. Alternatively, we could make this one more generic so it can be repurposed for future titles.

--Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

  • {{Event}} - Agree. On pages where the template might be used, version exclusivity is already mentioned in the first line. Also official WiFi support for the applicable games has ended so very few users will be looking to attend these events anyway. Also agree that it makes sense to highlight this info in the infobox.
  • Agree with {{Expansion}} x {{Missing Information}} merge.
  • I actually like {{Future Page}} because when used properly it helps us see what pages other users are working on in their sandboxes, as it has an associated category. Its counterpart {{TemplateWIP}} is less useful/it can go.
  • Agree that {{NH Content}} should be made generic. Maybe turn it into Template:New Content?
  • Toss {{Rewrite}} & {{To-do}}, agree that {{Cleanup}} is good enough on its own. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 01:22, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support for any that deals with deprecation/deletion/merger. As for {{NH Content}}, I would definitely support repurposing it for future game content. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 21:52, August 29, 2024 (EDT)
  • {{Event}}: Agree on deprecate or delete. I think a full notice like that at the top of the page is too excessive. Region exclusivity is sufficiently covered in the lead prose (and perhaps the infobox).
  • {{Expansion}}: Agree on merging.
  • {{Future Page}}: I'm fine with this one. Might not see frequent use, but nice to have for drafts and sandboxes. {{TemplateWIP}} is kind of repetitive and can be merged/deprecated/deleted.
  • {{NH Content}}: Deprecate, or turn more generic if possible. IMO don't delete, good to have for history's sake.
  • {{Rewrite}} & {{To-do}}: Agree on tossing, merge into {{Cleanup}}. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:50, August 29, 2024 (EDT)

Standardising color schemes[edit]

I want to make a potentially controversial proposal that we standardise the notice template colours. This would make them easier to maintain in the backend, give users a clearer indication as to the purpose of a notice, and allow us to better ensure accessibility standards are met for their design.

I've identified several categories our existing notices could fit into, and the idea is that all notices within the categories would share the same color scheme but can still have unique icons and text. I've not included file licensing templates, as I would like to make a distinct template for these instead of using the Notice Box template (and they currently all share the same design anyway).

Category Description Templates
Nookipedia All notices relating to Nookipedia itself. This would use the brand colors.
System System-related messages. Many of these already share a similar color scheme.
Warning Advisories of user blocks and critical system notices. Would match the scheme of the warning/block templates.
Advisory Notices to users reflecting the content of the page (that needs more elaboration than using Template:Content Notice).
Editing Editor-focused notices for articles that need attention or improvements.
Request Editor-focused notices for page change requests.
Game Update This one already uses styling to match update-related content on the wiki, and I think it should stay that way.

--Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 18:58, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Oppose Oppose Sorry but I disagree with this. I am a big fan of colors, and I would like templates to use different colors whenever possible. ACL.png Acnh Player (talk) ACL.png 21:25, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
Great idea! This makes sense and I think will help give our pages/the site a more cohesive look. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 01:28, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I like the idea as well, per Sunmarsh's remarks! 😄 ~PoizonMushro0mPoizonMush Sig.png 17:49, June 27, 2024 (EDT)
Support Support I think it looks really nice! I think that it’s cool. Thanks, --SunsetBay (Talk) Bob NL Villager Icon.png 15:25, August 1, 2024 (EDT)

Page Creation Request[edit]

I Want To Create A Page Request For Something I Want To Call " Terry Cloth Nightcap Colors By Villager In Animal Crossing New Horizons"70.70.61.15 11:12, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

I'm not sure if an entire page for that is necessary. That information could go in the terry-cloth nightcap item page. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 22:31, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

What pages should I edit?[edit]

Hello guys! I just created an account on this wiki, and I'd really appreciate it if I could get a couple suggestions on what pages I should edit. Any Ideas?TJS113 (talk) 09:51, July 8, 2024 (EDT)

I would recommend the gallery pages, because they definitely need more images on them. NookipediaCrossing (talk) 21:41, July 8, 2024 (EDT)


Keeping track of villagers[edit]

is there a way to see when your villagers came and left my island? i forgot to write it down :( Charlotte (talk) 22:29, September 3, 2024 (EDT)

Question from 82.69.99.76[edit]

I've been using Nookipedia a lot lately and it's so helpful so I wanted to help edit where I can but I can't seem to be able to. I've tried editing Julian's villager page because for some reason the sentence regarding his music hobby is broken (cut in half and repeats), and I've also noticed that the species for Snooty the anteater is missing in the NL villager tables but not sure how to fix it... Perhaps someone else can? - unsigned comment from 82.69.99.76 (talkcontribs)

Australia flag[edit]

I'm continuing this from a discussion started on PanchamBro's talk page, as it does concern me that the Australian flag has been changed site-wide to the Aboriginal version without any discussion beforehand. Given that this is a change affecting many pages (the flag appears next to release date and DLC information, for example), I feel that any change should ideally be agreed upon first, possibly even as a Proposal. Reasons cited for the change include avoiding confusion with the New Zealand flag (although that one is rarely used on Nookipedia) and human rights violations, but there's disagreement about whether the Aboriginal flag is even official enough to be used as the Australia flag on Nookipedia. Personally, I'd rather use the official flag unless there's an overwhelming case for changing it. Does anyone else have any thoughts? Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 14:13, September 14, 2024 (EDT)

  • I support reverting to the official national flag. I know the Aboriginal flag is one of several official flags, and I recognize the movement to make it the national flag. However, my understanding is that the Aboriginal flag represents the Aboriginal people of Australia, and I'm not sure it's apt to generalize the flag to mean all of Australia until Australia formally recognizes it as such. We should default to using what is considered the official national flag. Template:UB Australian was also changed to use the Aboriginal flag - I think we should revert this, but have the flag available as an option via a parameter. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 15:27, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
I think it would be better if we kept the Aboriginal flag to represent Oceania on this wiki since that's the general market that Nintendo sells at. Leaving only the Australian flag as it, but as a separate file, for users and stuff. Of course, this would also come with discussions on how we handle flags here, because North America doesn't have a unified flag to represent Canada and the United States. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 17:51, September 14, 2024 (EDT)
  • I am also in support with Drago and SH with reverting back to the official flag per their prior points. It might be a flag of Australia, but in my 20+ years on the internet, I've never seen it used in an official capacity and here, I feel it shouldn't be used as such to lessen confusion and fit more in line with our MoS with other official flags for say the United States, Canada, etc. Unless it was changed on a national/international level in Australia and/or discussed in a proposal with team members, these changes should not have taken place and a more formal process should have been done before mass changes to this flag and another countries were done. ~PoizonMushro0mPoizonMush Sig.png 02:23, September 15, 2024 (EDT)

Given the above discussion, I've done the following:

Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:06, September 21, 2024 (EDT)

I'm late to this discussion, but just thought I'd add my two AUD cents. I think this is a good resolution. I don't want to get too much into it, since it's a complex and nuanced sociopolitcal discussion that isn't relevant here, but as an Australian (who has lived abroad for a long, long time) I've never seen the Australian Aboriginal Flag used to represent the country globally in any official capacity. Having the option of which flag to use in the userbox a good, inclusive idea though. Some users may wish to use it to represent themselves, and should have the option to do so. Meanwhile, many non-Aboriginal Australians support usage of the flag but do not feel comfortable appropriating it for themselves due its historical and cultural context.
I do think future changes to any flags should be subject to discussion first, unless a nation very clearly changes their national flag on the global stage in an official capacity. --Shark HHD Icon.png Dorsal Axe (talk) 06:14, October 12, 2024 (EDT)

Pages with reference errors[edit]

The reference errors exist because templates themselves have a {{Note}} without a {{Note list}}. Would it be better to create a Note section par page with a single {{Note list}} or to have a {{Note list}} in the footnote of each Table having a note? WulFaz (talk) 09:35, October 4, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know. I'm currently fixing those pages by adding {{Note list}} to them. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 16:20, October 4, 2024 (EDT)

something about HHP[edit]

For villager pages, should there be an image example on how their HHP vacation home will look like? there's already that for HHA, so why not HHP? RedPikmin95 (talk) 11:33, October 10, 2024 (EDT)

The Happy Home Designer (HHD) villager boxes utilize house examples that were officially posted by Nintendo of Japan (see here for all images). For Happy Home Paradise, Nintendo did post a few examples of house requests (some can be found here), but it's not comprehensive like they did for HHD. This is why HHP doesn't have an equivalent. HylianAngel (talk) 15:18, October 10, 2024 (EDT)