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== Lyrics ==
 
I think the lyrics to Kapp'n's Sea Shanty should be included in the article. I know a lot of them in Animal Crossing: New Leaf, but I'm not writing them unless my idea is approved of. [[User:Friangirl|Friangirl]] ([[User talk:Friangirl|talk]]) 22:10, July 18, 2017 (EDT)
 
I think the lyrics to Kapp'n's Sea Shanty should be included in the article. I know a lot of them in Animal Crossing: New Leaf, but I'm not writing them unless my idea is approved of. [[User:Friangirl|Friangirl]] ([[User talk:Friangirl|talk]]) 22:10, July 18, 2017 (EDT)
 
:We do have script pages here, so I don't see why having Kapp'n's lyrics here too would be a problem. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:DragoPicACNL.png|23px]] 05:53, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
 
:We do have script pages here, so I don't see why having Kapp'n's lyrics here too would be a problem. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:DragoPicACNL.png|23px]] 05:53, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
I'm just not sure if there's some certain coding I should use to write the lyrics? Coding is really new to me. Maybe if someone could just get it started, I could write it. [[User:Friangirl|Friangirl]] ([[User talk:Friangirl|talk]]) 12:54, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
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::I'm just not sure if there's some certain coding I should use to write the lyrics? Coding is really new to me. Maybe if someone could just get it started, I could write it. [[User:Friangirl|Friangirl]] ([[User talk:Friangirl|talk]]) 12:54, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
:Maybe try writing it in italics? This is a mobile edit I'm making right now, so I might find a better solution later. If you didn't want to test it on the article, you could always use the [[Nookipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:DragoPicACNL.png|23px]] 14:09, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
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:::Maybe try writing it in italics? This is a mobile edit I'm making right now, so I might find a better solution later. If you didn't want to test it on the article, you could always use the [[Nookipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:DragoPicACNL.png|23px]] 14:09, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
I don't have the guts to start it myself, so I'm going to wait until someone else can start it. [[User:Friangirl|Friangirl]] ([[User talk:Friangirl|talk]]) 20:20, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
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::::I don't have the guts to start it myself, so I'm going to wait until someone else can start it. [[User:Friangirl|Friangirl]] ([[User talk:Friangirl|talk]]) 20:20, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
  
 
== Restore as a subpage for [[Kapp'n]]? ==
 
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It was decided a long time ago that [[Nookipedia talk:Community Fountain/2020#Regarding non-K.K. music pages|background music doesn't quantify their own article]], however I do feel like Kapp'n's Sea Shanty should've been a subpage of Kapp'n that lists all the shanties he sings while he takes the player to and from [[Tortimer Island]]. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:39, May 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
It was decided a long time ago that [[Nookipedia talk:Community Fountain/2020#Regarding non-K.K. music pages|background music doesn't quantify their own article]], however I do feel like Kapp'n's Sea Shanty should've been a subpage of Kapp'n that lists all the shanties he sings while he takes the player to and from [[Tortimer Island]]. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:39, May 6, 2021 (EDT)
 
:Sounds good to me. I'd {{Support}} adding the lyrics from {{PG|nolink}} and {{NL|short|nolink}} to a subpage of [[Kapp'n]]. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:48, May 25, 2021 (EDT)
 
:Sounds good to me. I'd {{Support}} adding the lyrics from {{PG|nolink}} and {{NL|short|nolink}} to a subpage of [[Kapp'n]]. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 21:48, May 25, 2021 (EDT)
:{{Support}} restoration + addition of lyrics, but I would rather see it at [[Kapp'n's Sea Shanty]] than a subpage. Subpages should be used when the subpage is a subset of the parent article (like a villager gallery, or how we list furniture in a specific game at Furniture/Game), and I think Sea Shanty stands as a standalone topic and song, similar to KK Slider's tracks. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 14:10, June 29, 2021 (EDT)
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:{{Support}} restoration + addition of lyrics, but I would rather see it at [[Kapp'n's Song]] than a subpage. Subpages should be used when the subpage is a subset of the parent article (like a villager gallery, or how we list furniture in a specific game at Furniture/Game), and I think Sea Shanty stands as a standalone topic and song, similar to KK Slider's tracks. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 14:10, June 29, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - I agree with Alex & SH's comments here, that including the text of the sea shanties would be enough to reinstate the page. I also agree that it should be a standalone page as opposed to a subpage, unless we were to go the route of documenting dialog for each special character... which is an entirely separate endeavor. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 20:51, July 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} - I agree with Alex & SH's comments here, that including the text of the sea shanties would be enough to reinstate the page. I also agree that it should be a standalone page as opposed to a subpage, unless we were to go the route of documenting dialog for each special character... which is an entirely separate endeavor. [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 20:51, July 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
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== Rename to "Kapp'n's sea shanty/shanties" (without capitalization) ==
 
== Rename to "Kapp'n's sea shanty/shanties" (without capitalization) ==
 
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{{Archive top|result=2 months later, and the consensus is in favor of a move to '''Kapp'n Song'''. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 03:34, October 10, 2021 (EDT)}}
 
I believe '''"Kapp'n's Sea Shanty"''' is not a proper noun and more of a conjectural term. It does not need to have "Sea" and "Shanty" capitalized. This is why I'm proposing to rename this page to '''"Kapp'n's sea shanty/shanties"'''. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 14:54, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
I believe '''"Kapp'n's Sea Shanty"''' is not a proper noun and more of a conjectural term. It does not need to have "Sea" and "Shanty" capitalized. This is why I'm proposing to rename this page to '''"Kapp'n's sea shanty/shanties"'''. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 14:54, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
:{{Support}} and move to plural - I'm not a sailor but I guess each song can be considered it's own shanty. '''~'''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 15:09, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
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:<s>{{Support}} and move to plural - I'm not a sailor but I guess each song can be considered it's own shanty. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 15:09, August 1, 2021 (EDT)</s>
:{{Support}} moving to "Kapp'n's sea shanties" per the above. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:26, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
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::{{Support}} moving to "Kapp'n's Song" per the below discussion; terminology in Smash Bros doesn't hold a lot of weight to me but it's all we've got and better than coming up with our own terminology. '''~''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#07517C">Super</span>]]''[[User:SuperHamster|<span style="color:#6FA23B">Hamster</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contribs/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 22:47, September 6, 2021 (EDT)
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:<s>{{Support}} moving to "Kapp'n's sea shanties" per the above. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 15:26, August 1, 2021 (EDT)</s>
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::After seeing the most recent edit to this page, I'd instead support a move to '''Kapp'n's Song''', since that's its official name in the Super Smash Bros. games. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 20:46, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
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:::{{Support}} - I wonder what other songs are in SSB... [[File:Sunmarshsignature.png|link=User:Sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 23:43, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
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:::Weak {{Oppose}} - I wouldn't be so certain to use a term that is only exclusive to the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series, especially since many users aren't here for ''Smash'' information, they're here for {{NL|short|nolink}} and ''Population Growing'' information. I can support making it a redirect, but I don't think I can support a move to '''Kapp'n's Song'''. -- [[User:PanchamBro|PanchamBro]] ([[User talk:PanchamBro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PanchamBro|contributions]]) 01:48, August 2, 2021 (EDT)
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::::While the term only exists in the Super Smash Bros. series, it's the only official term for the song, and we should use official names for pages whenever possible. '''~'''&nbsp;[[User:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:#1C662A">'''AlexBot2004'''</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AlexBot2004|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:black">Talk</span>]]) 13:18, August 3, 2021 (EDT)
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::Strong {{Support}} for "Kapp'n's Song" from me. This is the only official name for the song, and it's how I've always thought of it. Plus, it means pretty much the same thing, but once again it's an official name. I don't think the name being from Smash makes it less valid. Also, I don't know if this has any bearing either, but in my experience this is how the fandom and people online refer to the song. [[User:Chubby Bub|Chubby Bub]] ([[User talk:Chubby Bub|talk]]) 16:57, August 3, 2021 (EDT)
 
:{{Support}} per the above. '''~'''{{User:Kalina70/Sig}} 21:35, August 1, 2021 (CET)
 
:{{Support}} per the above. '''~'''{{User:Kalina70/Sig}} 21:35, August 1, 2021 (CET)
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== Please help in fixing the tabs ==
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I noticed that the tabs to view Kapp'n's Song for different games are placed in the wrong order, which makes it confusing to know where the tabs are. I tried my best in fixing them, but it was too confusing. Please send help in fixing the tabs. [[User:Heroman1234|Heroman1234]] ([[User talk:Heroman1234|talk]]) 13:01, December 5, 2023 (EST)

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Lyrics[edit]

I think the lyrics to Kapp'n's Sea Shanty should be included in the article. I know a lot of them in Animal Crossing: New Leaf, but I'm not writing them unless my idea is approved of. Friangirl (talk) 22:10, July 18, 2017 (EDT)

We do have script pages here, so I don't see why having Kapp'n's lyrics here too would be a problem. Drago (talk) DragoPicACNL.png 05:53, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
I'm just not sure if there's some certain coding I should use to write the lyrics? Coding is really new to me. Maybe if someone could just get it started, I could write it. Friangirl (talk) 12:54, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
Maybe try writing it in italics? This is a mobile edit I'm making right now, so I might find a better solution later. If you didn't want to test it on the article, you could always use the sandbox. Drago (talk) DragoPicACNL.png 14:09, July 19, 2017 (EDT)
I don't have the guts to start it myself, so I'm going to wait until someone else can start it. Friangirl (talk) 20:20, July 19, 2017 (EDT)

Restore as a subpage for Kapp'n?[edit]

Closing discussion in favor of page restoration. Lyrics have been inserted into the new page & should be checked for accuracy & completeness. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 17:45, July 30, 2021 (EDT)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

It was decided a long time ago that background music doesn't quantify their own article, however I do feel like Kapp'n's Sea Shanty should've been a subpage of Kapp'n that lists all the shanties he sings while he takes the player to and from Tortimer Island. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 01:39, May 6, 2021 (EDT)

Sounds good to me. I'd Support Support adding the lyrics from Animal Crossing and New Leaf to a subpage of Kapp'n. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 21:48, May 25, 2021 (EDT)
Support Support restoration + addition of lyrics, but I would rather see it at Kapp'n's Song than a subpage. Subpages should be used when the subpage is a subset of the parent article (like a villager gallery, or how we list furniture in a specific game at Furniture/Game), and I think Sea Shanty stands as a standalone topic and song, similar to KK Slider's tracks. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 14:10, June 29, 2021 (EDT)
Support Support - I agree with Alex & SH's comments here, that including the text of the sea shanties would be enough to reinstate the page. I also agree that it should be a standalone page as opposed to a subpage, unless we were to go the route of documenting dialog for each special character... which is an entirely separate endeavor. Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 20:51, July 1, 2021 (EDT)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Rename to "Kapp'n's sea shanty/shanties" (without capitalization)[edit]

2 months later, and the consensus is in favor of a move to Kapp'n Song. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 03:34, October 10, 2021 (EDT)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

I believe "Kapp'n's Sea Shanty" is not a proper noun and more of a conjectural term. It does not need to have "Sea" and "Shanty" capitalized. This is why I'm proposing to rename this page to "Kapp'n's sea shanty/shanties". -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 14:54, August 1, 2021 (EDT)

Support Support and move to plural - I'm not a sailor but I guess each song can be considered it's own shanty. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 15:09, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
Support Support moving to "Kapp'n's Song" per the below discussion; terminology in Smash Bros doesn't hold a lot of weight to me but it's all we've got and better than coming up with our own terminology. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 22:47, September 6, 2021 (EDT)
Support Support moving to "Kapp'n's sea shanties" per the above. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 15:26, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
After seeing the most recent edit to this page, I'd instead support a move to Kapp'n's Song, since that's its official name in the Super Smash Bros. games. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 20:46, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
Support Support - I wonder what other songs are in SSB... Sunmarshsignature.png (talk) 23:43, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
Weak Oppose Oppose - I wouldn't be so certain to use a term that is only exclusive to the Super Smash Bros. series, especially since many users aren't here for Smash information, they're here for New Leaf and Population Growing information. I can support making it a redirect, but I don't think I can support a move to Kapp'n's Song. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 01:48, August 2, 2021 (EDT)
While the term only exists in the Super Smash Bros. series, it's the only official term for the song, and we should use official names for pages whenever possible. ~ AlexBot2004 (Talk) 13:18, August 3, 2021 (EDT)
Strong Support Support for "Kapp'n's Song" from me. This is the only official name for the song, and it's how I've always thought of it. Plus, it means pretty much the same thing, but once again it's an official name. I don't think the name being from Smash makes it less valid. Also, I don't know if this has any bearing either, but in my experience this is how the fandom and people online refer to the song. Chubby Bub (talk) 16:57, August 3, 2021 (EDT)
Support Support per the above. ~Kalina (talk) Pikachu Sig Icon.png 21:35, August 1, 2021 (CET)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Please help in fixing the tabs[edit]

I noticed that the tabs to view Kapp'n's Song for different games are placed in the wrong order, which makes it confusing to know where the tabs are. I tried my best in fixing them, but it was too confusing. Please send help in fixing the tabs. Heroman1234 (talk) 13:01, December 5, 2023 (EST)