User talk:Moses Sin

Welcome!

Welcome to Nookipedia, Moses Sin!
We're glad you've taken the step to create an account and edit our wiki! With an account you'll now be able to easily edit pages, participate in discussions, watch pages, track your edits, and have access to additional editing tools. You can also create and edit your own user page. If you intend to continue editing, here are some things to keep in mind: Read our wiki's general use and editing, and privacy policies. Preview your changes before saving them to avoid the need for making corrections afterwards. Use talk pages to resolve editing disputes instead of undoing or reinstating changes repeatedly without discussion. Sign all talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~). This code will automatically leave your name and a timestamp. You can find editing tutorials and further information about our policies on the help pages.
Where to start?	Check out the Community Fountain for the latest discussions, or consult the to-do list on the Main Page to see tasks that need to be worked on.
Questions?	Feel free to ask a member of staff directly, or post your question on the Community Fountain talk page or on our Discord server. We're always happy to help!
Thank you for your contributions, and have a great time! -- Nookipedia Staff

Drago (talk) 10:47, October 18, 2021 (EDT)

Regarding infobox image captions

These types of image captions are not necessary. We don't need to list every species member that is not included in this image. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:34, October 29, 2021 (EDT)

Preview

I've noticed that when you edit galleries, you tend to make many consecutive edits in the span of 1 minute, where you alternate between adding and removing identical images. Based on your edits to the K.K. Lullaby page, it almost seems as if you haven't been using the "Show preview" button to see what the page will look like. I recommend using that, so that you can make one clean edit rather than around 3-5 edits in the span of a minute. This will make Special:RecentChanges cleaner, and it will make a page's history easier to sift through. HylianAngel (talk) 08:00, November 11, 2021 (EST)

Please keep in mind what Hylian said above; you're still doing this a lot, such as here. The policy does suggest that users should preview their edits before saving, which it doesn't look like you are doing. Thank you, and keep contributing. Drago (talk) 12:26, November 16, 2021 (EST)

HHP songs

Hi there! I noticed you've been adding songs to villager HHP templates, but some of the songs don't match datamined information (examples include Chelsea, Claudia, and Charlise). Can I ask where you're getting the song information from? Is it in-game? Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 00:50, November 22, 2021 (EST)

HHP additions

Hello again - thanks for all your help with adding HHP templates to villagers! I'm currently running a bot that is automatically adding the HHP template using datamined information, so if you could hold off on adding the template, that'd be great. Otherwise, the bot may conflict with your additions. Thank you! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:58, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Preview required

You are now required to preview all edits.

It appears that you have been saving multiple edits to the same page in order to preview your changes as you go along. Nookipedia offers a preview button that allows you to preview edits before saving them. Per Nookipedia policy (Article style and etiquette, section 7), editors are required to make use of the preview button to ensure that their edits do not clutter the edit history of a page. It has been determined that many of your recent edits could have been consolidated into a single edit. As a result, you will be required to use the preview button going forward before being permitted to save your edits.

This restriction expires in 30 days. Continued disregard for this policy during or beyond this period may result in a permanent restriction or a complete block from editing the site. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Nookipedia Staff

Drago (talk) 12:29, November 22, 2021 (EST)

CF House Exteriors

If you plan to add all villagers' CF exteriors to villager galleries, make sure to add all 5 at once rather than just one at a time. Only adding 1 can give the false impression that is their only exterior when it's not. For example, Bud has these 5 exteriors, so all should be added at the same time: File:CF Classic Exterior 1 Orange.png, File:CF Pink Exterior 1 Green.png, File:CF Ranch Exterior 1 Green.png, File:CF Rustic Exterior 1 Purple.png, File:CF Stone Exterior 1 Blue.png HylianAngel (talk) 19:54, December 1, 2021 (EST)

The information for all 5 exteriors is on the villager houses page (which I'm assuming is where you've been pulling the information from.) Use that info since it contains info on all 5, and also each image description does as well. HylianAngel (talk) 20:05, December 1, 2021 (EST)

Thank you for doing 5 at a time, the galleries look really good now! HylianAngel (talk) 22:03, December 2, 2021 (EST)

Descriptions for e-Reader cards

Please do not change the "Doubutsu no Mori e+ cards" to "Japanese cards," the DnM+ and DnMe+ cards are completely separate. HylianAngel (talk) 03:45, December 22, 2021 (EST)

Unexplained removal

Hi, could you please explain to me why you removed one of the Fortune Cookies listed on here? They are listed here for documentation purposes. Thanks. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 10:15, January 18, 2022 (EST)

You made more than one of the same thing. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

Ankha

Please don't revert the Ankha edit again - the intro is fine as it is. Thanks, Drago (talk) 11:48, January 21, 2022 (EST)

Preview

Please make sure you're continuing to use "Show preview" before saving changes - the amount of edits you made in a row to List of islanders was unnecessary. I don't want to have to give you the Preview Required sanction again, so please make sure you're not making as many consecutive edits to articles. Thanks. Drago (talk) 10:41, January 24, 2022 (EST)

You're still making too many edits to the gallery pages, especially Animal Crossing: New Horizons/Gallery. I know that they're large edits, but there still shouldn't be a need to make this many. Again, please make sure you use "Show preview" as much as you can, otherwise we may have to force (its use) again. I really don't want it to come to that, but this is the final warning you'll be receiving before that happens. Drago (talk) 12:21, April 9, 2022 (EDT)

Promise

OK, sir/madam. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

Notice regarding edit history

You are now required to preview all edits.

It appears that you have been saving multiple edits to the same page in order to preview your changes as you go along. Nookipedia offers a preview button that allows you to preview edits before saving them. Per Nookipedia policy (Article style and etiquette, section 7), editors are required to make use of the preview button to ensure that their edits do not clutter the edit history of a page. It has been determined that many of your recent edits could have been consolidated into a single edit. As a result, you will be required to use the preview button going forward before being permitted to save your edits.

This restriction does not expire. Continued disregard for this policy may result in a complete block from editing the site. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Nookipedia Staff

-- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 00:21, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Apology

Sorry, but because there are too many in the NH gallery page. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

If you need to add those character in the gallery, you don't need to continuously add them as you go through. Just pull them in a larger batch of changes, and if you need a break, then it would be a time to save your edits. Also, remember to sign your comments using ~~~~. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 01:08, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Understood. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

Official artwork

Do not revert to a smaller transparent version of the official artwork, it should be the higher-quality artwork, even if it has a white background, according to Nookipedia upload policy. HylianAngel (talk) 02:01, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Note: Fine, thank you very much. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

Transparenting

How can we make the character artworks transparent? No fans like it that way. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

This is described in the "Artwork" section of the upload policy that I linked earlier. It would need to be a separate upload, for some extremely specific cases. And in all other cases, except for those very specific cases, all instances on the wiki should showcase the highest-quality version of the official artwork, whether or not it has a background present. So that would include Animal Crossing: New Horizons/Gallery, where it would contradict the upload policy to have lower-quality transparent versions there.

There have actually been discussions about this transparent image issue in the past, such as here and seemingly the roots for the upload policy starting here. One of the problems is, not all villagers have an official transparent version of their NH artwork, and fan-made transparencies tend to be of poor quality. It's not clear what the best solution is. It might be worth bringing up this discussion again in Nookipedia talk:The Roost and gauging consensus on the best images to display. But as it is for the current standard, the images should not be reverted unless there's a new update to the policy (and even if there is a new standard, the transparencies would probably need to be separate uploads, so reverting the current images is not a good idea for right now.)

Also I could be misunderstanding some small details involving the policy, maybe User:AlexBot2004 could chime in with more information (if he isn't busy). He would know best, as the main author of modernizing and improving the upload policy. HylianAngel (talk) 04:24, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Thank you. - unsigned comment from Moses Sin (talk • contribs)

No problem, glad this information could help. But yeah, it does seem at least several people in the community are in support of transparent images. Just for right now, it's best not to revert the currently-existing images, unless there's another amendment to the upload policy per community consensus. HylianAngel (talk) 04:44, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Album cover trivia

I don't believe it is necessary to describe all other characters that exist on an album cover, in the trivia section for every villager's page. The notable part is that the villager does exist on the artwork, and not necessarily who else is on the cover and what they are interacting with. It's not useful to state that K.K. Slider is also there, because he is on every cover. The only cover he is not on would be Bubblegum K.K., and even then, his face is a pattern decorating the background of the artwork. HylianAngel (talk) 07:33, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

I am a bit borderline on this, since things like Whitney dancing with Wolfgang on the album cover are somewhat interesting trivia, but at a certain point, I think mentioning "there are multiple villagers" and K.K. being present on the cover might be not as interesting and it would be better to keep these descriptions isolated to the K.K. song pages. Though if a discussion is brought up about this and a large number of people disagree and think these features would be good to include in the villager page trivia, then I wouldn't mind, but I don't think it's good to mass-change this without maybe starting up a discussion first. In my opinion, it's just rehashing the descriptions that are already on the K.K. song pages, and the focus of the trivia is that the villager is present on the cover, and not about as much what they are doing. HylianAngel (talk) 07:45, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Anyways again, I see where you are coming from with these edits, but this is going to be a big change that will affect a large number of pages, and the changes should be consistent. (For example, why is it notable to describe Cheri's appearance on K.K. Faire but not her appearance on I Love You. And also why is it appropriate to list all of the characters on K.K. Aria but not another album cover like K.K. Fusion.) I would encourage starting a discussion proposing the major change in the structure of all of the trivia that you plan to do, and some examples. (In fact, the person who initially added the album cover trivia onto villager pages asked beforehand if adding them was okay, and added them after receiving the indication that it was fine.) I'm going to revert most of these back to their simplified forms for now. HylianAngel (talk) 08:01, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

One thing that would be good to add: I think many pages are missing info about their appearances in the e-Reader card artwork. For example, Penny is in the K.K. Parade e-Reader art, so that would be good trivia to add to her page, and the fact that she gets replaced by Rod later. All of the NL/NH album covers are covered though. HylianAngel (talk) 08:04, April 10, 2022 (EDT)

Moses: Understood.

Special character New Leaf pics

For New Leaf, only 7 special characters had pics available in New Leaf, the rest of the special character pics were released in New Leaf - Welcome amiibo. So Happy Home Designer pics should be placed before their New Leaf - Welcome amiibo pics, due to game chronological release order (even though all of the image files on Nookipedia label the pics as "NL Model.png." Except for Bianca, Don, Jingle, Katie, K.K., Resetti, and Zipper's pics, where New Leaf should be before Happy Home Designer. HylianAngel (talk) 05:42, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

Moses: Thanks for warning.