Talk:Doubutsu no Mori+

Merge with Animal Crossing

To me, Animal Crossing is simply the localized version of Doubutsu no Mori+, as both games are similar enough to be considered one and the same, just with some differences. Rather than being a separate page, the differences should be labeled under a regional differences section (As I have already made) instead of a separate page.

Please state below whether you support or oppose. --LoneShadowStar (talk) 19:11, May 3, 2018 (EDT)

I would  Support this, for the reasons stated above. --LoneShadowStar (talk) 19:11, May 3, 2018 (EDT)

I would  Support this, since the changes between the two games are insignificant (such as characters wearing differently coloured clothing; is that really enough to get the game a separate page?) Drago (talk) 13:16, May 3, 2018 (EDT)

I definitely  Oppose the merge. The fact that DnM+ itself is an entirely separate game from Animal Crossing should be enough to keep it as its own page. Also, I'm not sure why the only differences listed on the DnM+ page are the minor ones.Zoekay (talk) 18:02, May 3, 2018 (EDT)

@Zoekay Do you have any proof that they are separate games? Most of the time you will find that the majority consider Doubutsu no Mori+ to be the Japanese release of Animal Crossing, myself included, with relatively few differences. Unless you provide me a credible source, my stance on the two games being the same will remain. As for the list of differences, the majority of differences listed on that pages are minor and were not necessary to include on the Animal Crossing page, unless you are referring to Doubutsu no Mori e+, which has enough original content to get its own page. --LoneShadowStar (talk) 19:11, May 3, 2018 (EDT)

@LoneShadowStar I honestly cannot tell if your response is supposed to be a joke, but I did laugh a couple of times when reading it. Anyway, nothing you wrote makes sense.

• Doubutsu no Mori+ (which featured different content and gameplay) was released in a different region, in a different language, during a different year, under a different name, in a different sized box than Animal Crossing. That sounds "separate" enough to me!
• Doubutsu no Mori+ came out before Animal Crossing, so it cannot be "a Japanese release of Animal Crossing".
• E+ was never mentioned.

If you look on this very page, it says "Doubutsu no Mori+ almost has the same game code as Animal Crossing. Doubutsu no Mori+ is GAFJ, Animal Crossing is GAFE in the US version, GAFP in the PAL version", meaning the games are recognized as different versions of the same game officially by Nintendo as well, despite the code or gameplay differences. Also, I've taken it upon myself to further compare DnM+ to Animal Crossing. I have done similar work with the Animal Crossing series (by myself and as part of a group) before. Not to mention my history of speedrunning both games. - unsigned comment from Zoekay (talk • contribs)

@Zoekay I'm still not convinced by this:

• The Japanese version of Animal Crossing: New Leaf was also released in a different region, in a different language, and in a different year.
• Animal Crossing was effectively a non-Japanese release (translation) of Doubutsu no Mori+.
• I have not much knowledge about code, so someone else will have to make sense of that. Drago (talk) 13:26, May 5, 2018 (EDT)

@Zoekay Ok, maybe I sort of rambled in my previous statement. Sometimes I write faster than I think, but I'm saying that unless you have a good reason to say they are separate games entirely, I won't change my mind. Also, your sources, in agreement with Drago, don't really prove anything. Countless games have been released in other regions in different languages in different years, maybe with different content, but that doesn't mean that they are entirely separate. A good example is Tomodachi Life. The Japanese version, named Tomodachi Collection: New Life was released one year before the western release (2013, compared to the 2014 release out west), but they are still considered one and the same due to common similarities.

Maybe it's just your opinion, and I apologize for my rant if that is the case.--LoneShadowStar (talk) 14:13, May 5, 2018 (EDT)

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