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:I like this idea! Always thought this page was inadequate, and a revamp will allow us to get every special character on rather than the small selection we have now. We don't need long descriptions either, because the individual character articles provide that info. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:41, December 6, 2018 (EST)
 
:I like this idea! Always thought this page was inadequate, and a revamp will allow us to get every special character on rather than the small selection we have now. We don't need long descriptions either, because the individual character articles provide that info. [[User:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:green">Drago</span>]] [[User talk:Drago|<span style="font-family:Coustard;color:purple">(talk)</span>]]    [[File:Drago PC icon.png|20px]] 11:41, December 6, 2018 (EST)
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::I have bodged together a preliminary version of this page, probably needs a bunch of tweaking and I'm not sure what to do now. Should I just forge ahead and rely on you guys to revert it if it's terrible? Ideally I'd actually replace the redirect page [[Special Characters|here]] (not sure how to force it not to redirect when linking), and then tweak the nav template so it pointed there since it says it does already despite actually pointing here and then mark this for deletion... I'm gonna go get some sleep now anyway so let me know and I'll check back here in the morning. [[User:Kazz|Kazz]] ([[User talk:Kazz|talk]]) 19:08, December 6, 2018 (EST)

Revision as of 19:08, December 6, 2018

I stumbled across this page and saw it needed some more characters adding... oh this will be easy I thought. After poking it for a while though I'm not convinced. There are some distinct problems.

  • The page is labelled Special Visitors but is linked to by the Special Villagers link in the nav thingy which covers pretty much ever non-regular-villager NPC including shop owners and so on.
  • If you include all the special characters in this page it's going to be a mammoth unreadable mess, otoh if you want to narrow it down then you need to define "visitor." Whilst the NPCs are divided by type in the Special Villager nav thing at the bottom there are easily arguments to be made for including NPCs outside the regular/holiday visitor sections (such as Lyle since he was special visitor but is now a proprietor and it appears PC has recycled a large number of usually non-visitor-y NPCs to host events) and the whole thing gets horribly messy.

    My suggestion would be to change the page to Special Villagers since this would make more sense as that's primarily what links here, use the text to explain the different roles NPCs have based on the nav thingy definitions (proprietor, government, visitor etc) and provide a table for each section with a very brief description description of each linking to their character pages (eg: Pelly - Works at post office). If you want a page with list in the format that this page currently is I would suggest dividing it along the same lines as the nav thingy (I really need to work out what to call that), so a page for Government Employees, one for proprietors etc etc and putting a link into each section before the table (in the way that it currently links to each character before the description text). So as a rough example of a section:

    Government Employees

    Main article: Government Employees

    Government employees are characters who run the various civic buildings blah blah

    Name Location Description
    Blathers Museum Runs the Museum
    Booker Police Station Runs the Lost and Found
    Celeste Museum Runs the Second floor Museum Shop or Observatory

    Thoughts? (also is there such a thing as a page template available?) Kazz (talk) 10:56, December 6, 2018 (EST)

    I like this idea! Always thought this page was inadequate, and a revamp will allow us to get every special character on rather than the small selection we have now. We don't need long descriptions either, because the individual character articles provide that info. Drago (talk) Drago PC Villager Icon.png 11:41, December 6, 2018 (EST)
    I have bodged together a preliminary version of this page, probably needs a bunch of tweaking and I'm not sure what to do now. Should I just forge ahead and rely on you guys to revert it if it's terrible? Ideally I'd actually replace the redirect page here (not sure how to force it not to redirect when linking), and then tweak the nav template so it pointed there since it says it does already despite actually pointing here and then mark this for deletion... I'm gonna go get some sleep now anyway so let me know and I'll check back here in the morning. Kazz (talk) 19:08, December 6, 2018 (EST)